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icon1.gif   Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Sebastian Schenk on Thu Jan 19 15:28:16 2023 
    icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Stefan Ritt on Thu Jan 19 17:00:37 2023 
       icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Fri Jan 20 10:25:23 2023 
          icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Sebastian Schenk on Fri Jan 20 13:12:48 2023 
             icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Edmund Blomley on Mon Jan 23 21:21:56 2023 
                icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Stefan Ritt on Mon Jan 23 22:24:23 2023 
                   icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Edmund Blomley on Tue Jan 24 11:31:59 2023 
                      icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Fri Jan 27 22:25:18 2023 
                         icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by John Kelly on Sat Jan 28 08:11:05 2023 
                            icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by David Pilgram on Sat Jan 28 14:26:07 2023 
Message ID: 69634     Entry time: Sat Jan 28 08:11:05 2023     In reply to: 69633     Reply to this: 69635
Icon: Reply  Author: John Kelly  Author Email: john@secondcomingtechnologies.com 
Category: Request  OS: All  ELOG Version:
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Article deleted 
Wikipedia has been an unreliable source for a very long time, just for the reasons that we are seeing here now with psi and Elog. Those that 'run' Wikipedia are political and authoratative. I have not only had these negative experiences with 'them' but know of many others that have as well. I see no reason why an organization as  ours with such great ideas,  programs and people need to be on their site. I think it would 'say more' if we left this as is and let others see how unreliable Wikipedia really is.
John
Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It appears to me that this is a really stupid problem: the article provides many links to sources, but they are just links, not "references". That does not count, since links could be something else than references.

I'll try to edit it and transform the list of external links into references to verify the text. Lets hope that this will suffice.

Okay: found three articles about applications of ELOG and put them under references. I took the liberty to submit the draft: it shows that they expect some month delay for a review. I have no idea if that was what they want, but it is worth a try.

Edmund Blomley wrote:

If I understand it correctly I think it has to be submitted for review with the blue button on that page, just not sure if that should come from your side or someone else

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I added some more references, that's about all I can do. Not sure if that is enough.

Stefan

Edmund Blomley wrote:

It was now moved to the Draft space (which I did not even now existed so far): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ELOG

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

I have requested an undeletion of the article. The article was deleted  "PROD", which means that someone tagged it. And if noone removes the tag, it could be deleted.

I could revive the article. So in the future, One should have an eye on it and maybe update the current version of the software.

If there iy an paper on the elog, maybe it could be cited for more creditability.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It looks to me like only an author of an article can contradict a deletion. I did not find a single method to even comment on the deletion.
I am not an Wikipedia expert, can anyone suggest on how to push for the article to be restored? Or do we just write it again, until people stop deleting it?

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I agree. I ahead ;-) I think it is not a good idea if the ELOG author pushes on that, but better someone else.

Best,
Stefan

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Hello,

I noticed the wikipedia article of the ELOG got deleted in November 2021.
With the reason: "Poorly sourced article, and I was not able to find good sources myself."

I could access the old article through web.archive.org, but for the project it would be good, if the article got revived.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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