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Wed May 27 14:22:11 2015

Edmund Hertle

edmund.hertle@kit.edu

Question

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3.1

Formatting multiple datetime entries

Hey

in one of my measurement logbooks I'm using two datetime entries (for start and end time of a measurement). The entries are created automatically by the measurement script.

Attributes = Time Start, Time End

Type Time Start = datetime
Type Time End = datetime

Time format = %H:%M:%S

For better visual appearance I would like to only display the time on the two additional datetime fields but keep the full date and time on the standard date field. Using the "Time format" option will influence all three at once.

Is there an option to do something like the time format for individual attributes (similar to the syntax of adding comments etc)?

Example:

Attributes = Time Start, Time End

Type Time Start = datetime
Type Time End = datetime

Time format Time Start = %H:%M:%S
Time format Time End = %H:%M:%S

67941

Wed May 27 10:50:41 2015

Andreas Luedeke

andreas.luedeke@psi.ch

Question

Windows

V2.9.0-239

Re: RSS Feed Not Providing Time Stamps For datetime Attributes

Hi Kamen,

I've just tried it for V3.1.0 (6ab0fd5) and the described behaviour is unchanged.

It is even worse if you don't specify the "RSS Title": datetime attributes are just displayed as seconds of the epoch then.

I think this is a feature of ELOG at the moment.

You'll either need to dig into the code yourself or wait for Stefan to fix it.

I have an idea for a quick workaround:

you can create new hidden attributes, that contains a copy of the datetime attribute as a string, set by the subst command. You could then use those string attribute in the "RSS Title": that should work.

Cheers

Andreas

Kamen Nikolov wrote:

Can anyone help? Do I need to do something different or could this possibly be a bug that is fixed in a newer version?

Thanks,

Kamen

Kamen Nikolov wrote:

Hello,

I am using the RSS feed feature of Elog (V2.9.0-2396). I have a couple of attributes of type "datetime" (Start Time and Stop Time). I don't have a "Time Format" statement, so just using the default format. I am passing the Start Time and Stop Time attributes to the RSS Title with $Start Time and $Stop Time, but when looking at the RSS title in IE11 browser, I only see the date and not the time. Is there any way I can see the time as well?

Additional info:

I'm also passing the creation time of the Elog with $entry time and this is displaying correctly (both date and time).

Please let me know if I am doing something incorrectly?

Thanks

67940

Wed May 27 08:54:27 2015

Andreas Luedeke

andreas.luedeke@psi.ch

Question

Windows

3.1.0

Side effects of draft messages (was Fixed text)

Hi Stefan,

I got an answer to a forum entry before I actually finished writing my post! It is obviously possible to reply to a draft message.

I think it would be excellent if draft messages would only be shown to their authors (except maybe in case of an anonymous author).

It feels wrong if I watch people while they making an entry ;-)

Anyway, it is just an idea.

Cheers

Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

Thanks Andreas

We are still playing around with ideas, just thought I'd ask, didn't think it was possible.

We are ok with setting attributes but this is new to us as yet so may have more questions later.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Neal,

you can preload words into one attribute field, but one field is either editable or not, you cannot protect single words in a field.

But the ELOG way to solve this would be to have multiple attributes: you would get one entry field for each attribute.

Just look at this logbook: it has the attributes Icon, Author, Author Email, Category, OS, ELOG Version and Subject.

You can change the content of each attribute (except of "Author", that field is made here to be not editable), but as a normal user you cannot change the names in front of the fields.

Did you've set up the demo logbook and played around with it? Because your question suggests to me that you don't figured out yet what ELOG does. Or as a direct answer: no, it does not make sense to me ;-)

But I'm sure you'll figure it out: ELOG is best learned by trial and error.

Kind Regards

Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

Sorry I call this field that you write in the subject field, a little confusing.

So is there anyway to fix the indicated words in place in this typing space so you can enter the text you want next to them but be unable to delete them. (does this make sense?)

Neal

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Dear Neal,

I don't understand your example. There is no such thing as a "subject field". You can define an attribute called "subject", like in this logbook.

But I would guess that you want to have five attributes "Time Off", "Reason", etc. that cannot be altered after an entry has been created? That's easy.

Or do you want to protect entries with specific content not to be deleted? That is not easy.

Please explain in more detail what you want to achieve, and I'll be happy to help.

Cheers, Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

I'd like to fix text or table in the subject field that can't be deleted or moved.

Can that be done in config? Example -

Time Off:

Reason:

Update By:

Estimated On time:

Detail:

67939

Wed May 27 08:51:23 2015

Neal Grafton

neal.grafton@stfc.ac.uk

Andreas

We are still playing around with ideas, just thought I'd ask, didn't think it was possible.

We are ok with setting attributes but this is new to us as yet so may have more questions later.

Looking to produce, initially a shift running log and then many other logs for ISIS accelerator departments here at Rutherford Lab.

Thanks for the advice.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Neal,

you can preload words into one attribute field, but one field is either editable or not, you cannot protect single words in a field.

But the ELOG way to solve this would be to have multiple attributes: you would get one entry field for each attribute.

Just look at this logbook: it has the attributes Icon, Author, Author Email, Category, OS, ELOG Version and Subject.

You can change the content of each attribute (except of "Author", that field is made here to be not editable), but as a normal user you cannot change the names in front of the fields.

But I'm sure you'll figure it out: ELOG is best learned by trial and error.

Kind Regards

Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

Sorry I call this field that you write in the subject field, a little confusing.

So is there anyway to fix the indicated words in place in this typing space so you can enter the text you want next to them but be unable to delete them. (does this make sense?)

Neal

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Dear Neal,

I don't understand your example. There is no such thing as a "subject field". You can define an attribute called "subject", like in this logbook.

But I would guess that you want to have five attributes "Time Off", "Reason", etc. that cannot be altered after an entry has been created? That's easy.

Or do you want to protect entries with specific content not to be deleted? That is not easy.

Please explain in more detail what you want to achieve, and I'll be happy to help.

Cheers, Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

I'd like to fix text or table in the subject field that can't be deleted or moved.

Can that be done in config? Example -

Time Off:

Reason:

Update By:

Estimated On time:

Detail:

67938

Wed May 27 08:41:05 2015

Andreas Luedeke

andreas.luedeke@psi.ch

Hi Neal,

you can preload words into one attribute field, but one field is either editable or not, you cannot protect single words in a field.

But the ELOG way to solve this would be to have multiple attributes: you would get one entry field for each attribute.

Just look at this logbook: it has the attributes Icon, Author, Author Email, Category, OS, ELOG Version and Subject.

You can change the content of each attribute (except of "Author", that field is made here to be not editable), but as a normal user you cannot change the names in front of the fields.

Did you've set up the demo logbook and played around with it? Because your question suggests to me that you don't figured out yet what ELOG does. (Or as a direct answer: no, it does not make sense to me ;-) )

But I'm sure you'll figure it out: ELOG is best learned by trial and error.

Kind Regards

Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

Sorry I call this field that you write in the subject field, a little confusing.

So is there anyway to fix the indicated words in place in this typing space so you can enter the text you want next to them but be unable to delete them. (does this make sense?)

Neal

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Dear Neal,

I don't understand your example. There is no such thing as a "subject field". You can define an attribute called "subject", like in this logbook.

But I would guess that you want to have five attributes "Time Off", "Reason", etc. that cannot be altered after an entry has been created? That's easy.

Or do you want to protect entries with specific content not to be deleted? That is not easy.

Please explain in more detail what you want to achieve, and I'll be happy to help.

Cheers, Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

I'd like to fix text or table in the subject field that can't be deleted or moved.

Can that be done in config? Example -

Time Off:

Reason:

Update By:

Estimated On time:

Detail:

67937

Tue May 26 22:03:05 2015

Re: RSS Feed Not Providing Time Stamps For datetime Attributes

Can anyone help? Do I need to do something different or could this possibly be a bug that is fixed in a newer version?

Thanks,

Kamen

Kamen Nikolov wrote:

Hello,

Additional info:

I'm also passing the creation time of the Elog with $entry time and this is displaying correctly (both date and time).

Please let me know if I am doing something incorrectly?

Thanks

67936

Tue May 26 12:34:44 2015

Neal Grafton

nealgrafton@stfc.ac.uk

Sorry I call this field that you write in the subject field, a little confusing.

So is there anyway to fix the indicated words in place in this typing space so you can enter the text you want next to them but be unable to delete them. (does this make sense?)

Neal

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Dear Neal,

I don't understand your example. There is no such thing as a "subject field". You can define an attribute called "subject", like in this logbook.

But I would guess that you want to have five attributes "Time Off", "Reason", etc. that cannot be altered after an entry has been created? That's easy.

Or do you want to protect entries with specific content not to be deleted? That is not easy.

Please explain in more detail what you want to achieve, and I'll be happy to help.

Cheers, Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

I'd like to fix text or table in the subject field that can't be deleted or moved.

Can that be done in config? Example -

Time Off:

Reason:

Update By:

Estimated On time:

Detail:

67935

Tue May 26 11:26:12 2015

Andreas Luedeke

andreas.luedeke@psi.ch

Dear Neal,

I don't understand your example. There is no such thing as a "subject field". You can define an attribute called "subject", like in this logbook.

But I would guess that you want to have five attributes "Time Off", "Reason", etc. that cannot be altered after an entry has been created? That's easy.

Or do you want to protect entries with specific content not to be deleted? That is not easy.

Please explain in more detail what you want to achieve, and I'll be happy to help.

Cheers, Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

I'd like to fix text or table in the subject field that can't be deleted or moved.

Can that be done in config? Example -

Time Off:

Reason:

Update By:

Estimated On time:

Detail:

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