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Mon Jan 14 13:33:19 2013 |
| Yoshio Imai | $user_email | Question | Windows | 2.7.8 | Re: Dual Time display and entry times | Depending on whether I understand your requirement correctly, the following solution should work:
- define an additional logbook attribute, say "UTC Date"
- preset it on entry creation and submission with the UTC timestamp (cf. section "Attributes" of the ELog configuration guide):
Preset UTC Date = $utcdate
Subst UTC Date = $utcdate - prevent the attribute from being changed manually by adding it to the
Locked Attributes = < ... > andFixed Attributes Edit = < ... > lists, respectively.
You may also have to add it to theRemove on reply = < ... > list if replies turn out to keep the "UTC Date" value of the original entry.
Regards, |
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Mon Jan 14 03:05:41 2013 |
| Bruce Weber | bruce.weber@inmarsat.com | Question | Windows | 2.7.8 | Dual Time display and entry times | ELog has been installed on our local server which runs on local time (UTC +8) and is working well, however, we work in two time zones.
Our PC's run in local time (IT requirement) but need to save and display one log in UTC and one log in local time - can this be done?
Appreciate anyones help!
Thanks |
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Fri Jan 11 08:17:37 2013 |
| Stefan Ritt | stefan.ritt@psi.ch | Question | Windows | 2.9 | Re: Re-using IDs after move to another Logbook overwrite Entries |
David Pilgram wrote: |
Barend wrote: |
Hi Stefan,
I have observed following behavior when I move entries from one logbook to another:
- The first entry in "Open" get ID "1"
- When I move this Item to "Closed", it will keep ID "1" as I have used "Preserve IDs = 1"
- A new entry in "Open" gets ID "1" again
- When I move this item to "Closed" it will overwrite the previous ID "1" in "Closed"
- A new entry in "open" gets ID "1" again....
Every new entry in "Open" will get the next higher ID Number related to the highest available ID number/entry in "Open".
Upon "move to Closed", the previous entries in "Closed"will be overwritten.
Is there a way to prevent the usage of a previously used ID Number when entering a new ID?
I.e. If an entry with ID "1" has been used in "Open" and moved to "Closed", have the next entry in "Open" use ID "2"?
Kind regards,
Barend
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Hi Barend,
The counting of entries, or even "tickets", only works within a particular logbook. If you archive a set of entries to another [archive] logbook, the archived set disappears from view of the original logbook. Should that entry, from logbook to archive, be the *latest* thread, then there is the danger of over-writing message ID, Ticket No and the like.
My policy to prevent the problem is to archive only threads that are say (depending upon use) a month after last entry..
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I generally consider using the ID as ticket number a bad idea. The ID is the "primary key" (in terms of database language), and must be unique inside a logbook. So when moving entries between logbooks, there will be always problems.
Why don't you define an attribute "Ticket ID" and use that one? That won't change when you move the entry between logbooks:
Attributes = Ticket ID, Subject, ...
Preset Ticket ID = ID-#####
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Thu Jan 10 22:07:10 2013 |
| David Pilgram | David.Pilgram@epost.org.uk | Question | Windows | 2.9 | Re: Re-using IDs after move to another Logbook overwrite Entries |
Barend wrote: |
Hi Stefan,
I have observed following behavior when I move entries from one logbook to another:
- The first entry in "Open" get ID "1"
- When I move this Item to "Closed", it will keep ID "1" as I have used "Preserve IDs = 1"
- A new entry in "Open" gets ID "1" again
- When I move this item to "Closed" it will overwrite the previous ID "1" in "Closed"
- A new entry in "open" gets ID "1" again....
Every new entry in "Open" will get the next higher ID Number related to the highest available ID number/entry in "Open".
Upon "move to Closed", the previous entries in "Closed"will be overwritten.
Is there a way to prevent the usage of a previously used ID Number when entering a new ID?
I.e. If an entry with ID "1" has been used in "Open" and moved to "Closed", have the next entry in "Open" use ID "2"?
Kind regards,
Barend
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Hi Barend,
The counting of entries, or even "tickets", only works within a particular logbook. If you archive a set of entries to another [archive] logbook, the archived set disappears from view of the original logbook. Should that entry, from logbook to archive, be the *latest* thread, then there is the danger of over-writing message ID, Ticket No and the like.
My policy to prevent the problem is to archive only threads that are say (depending upon use) a month after last entry..
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Thu Jan 10 10:52:11 2013 |
| Stefan Ritt | stefan.ritt@psi.ch | Question | Windows | 2.91 | Re: Main Logbook screen with Multi Grouped Logbooks with unique user permissions |
Hal Proctor wrote: |
I have a couple questions on how to configure multiple logbooks with groups.
- How can I have a user have permissions to a single logbook that is within a group and jump to it using tabs?
- Launching from main/home screen may work, but using tabs from one group to another where the single workbook resides in a group of others, it errors out or asks for login to a logbook you may not have rights to.(always the first book in the group)
- How can I force a main login to direct you to the MAIN logbook selection screen?
Example: (use images for reference) A user has permissions to "Punch" and "Maintenance". Maintenance is a single logbook and Punch is within the group "Dry Room".
While the user is in Maintenance and without having to jump back to the MAIN selection screen, how can the user select the Tab "Dry Room" as seen in image, without throwing up or redirecting you?
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There are several options:
- Use a bookmark in your browser. Put a link directly "Punch" and "Maintenance" in the link list of your browser and you can directly jump to that logbook. Different users can define different bookmarks in their browsers.
- Change the order of the logbooks in the group, like put "Punch" to be the first one in your group. But if you have different users with different permissions this will of course not work for all.
- Give up groups and just keep a linear list of logbooks.
2. is not possible. Even if you use "Protect selection page", you will always be redirected to the first logbook after logging in. Maybe I should change that.
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Wed Jan 9 22:28:20 2013 |
| Miles Fidelman | mfidelman@meetinghouse.net | Question | Linux | 2.9.0-2435 | Re: trouble ticket systems w/ elog? |
David Pilgram wrote: |
Miles Fidelman wrote: |
David Pilgram wrote: |
Miles Fidelman wrote: |
Updating my toolbox. Starting to use elog as, well, a logbook. Kind of liking the short, sweet, to the point capabilities.
Which leads me to wonder if anybody has opinions on trouble ticket systems that work well with elog?
Thanks!
Miles Fidelman
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I use elog's built-in ticketing system, and use the auto-generated ticket number to cross-reference with other matters/documents/files. Much of the documentation for tickets is rather buried away under Subst <attribute> = <string>.
I've not found a way to link from an entry to a set of entries in another thread by their ticket number, particularly across more than one logbook. [This is possible via their elog entry number, and which logbook it is in]. The former would be usefil to cross-reference an incident which you identify external to the elog system - "Oh, it's another one like [Ticket no] NOV12-001" possibily easier than "Oh it's another one like elog:archive12/67142 ". Oh, the last bit should be highlighed as a (non-existant) link here, to show my point, nice of the ticket could be as well.
On the plus side, you can arrange the ticket number to show up in the thread display, quick search by ticket number, run different ticket colours (as it were) in different logbooks (i.e. different prefixes). Just ensure you don't archive the latest entry, as that can lead to duplication of ticket numbers.
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By "ticket number" are you referring to the Message ID, or is there some additional trouble ticket functionality buried away? And... can you point me to the documentation that's "buried away under Subst <attribute> = <string>? Thanks!
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Message ID is the internal numbering of each entry. It is the number that is used internally for generating the threads, and which you can reference with the elog:[message ID] code within an entry to cross reference the entry with that message ID.
"Ticket" is the name of an attribute. You define the attribute "Ticket", and can preload the attribute with the format you require(*). In the following extract of an elog.cfg file are the relivent lines to generate tickets, show the ticket number in the thread display, search for a particular ticket, and allow it to be edited when writing an entry - there are reasons. The attribute "Organisation" here is an example of another attribute you would enter with the initial entry, of course there will be others specific to your requirements.
Attributes = Ticket, Organisation, ...
Preset ticket = T#####
Thread display = $Ticket: $Organisation, ...
Quick filter = Ticket, ID
When you start an new entry, the Ticket attribute is prepopulated with a number. The first time will be T00001, subsequently it will be one higher than the currently existing highest ticket number in the logbook.
Why might you edit the ticket number? You may wish to go back and edit an old (complete) entry's ticket number so it has some obvious name - perhaps the solution of what proves to be a stock problem, that has become known by a pet phrase, so it can be found by searching for that phrase in the quick fillter "Ticket". That is a more advanced use of the ticket system.
(*) Further on the format of the ticket is in the documentation under Subst <attribute> = <string>
Sorry for multiple edits, why cannot I cross-reference an entry in this forum as I can in my local logbook?
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Thanks for the additional details!
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Wed Jan 9 21:07:53 2013 |
| David Pilgram | David.Pilgram@epost.org.uk | Question | Linux | 2.9.0-2435 | Re: trouble ticket systems w/ elog? |
Miles Fidelman wrote: |
David Pilgram wrote: |
Miles Fidelman wrote: |
Updating my toolbox. Starting to use elog as, well, a logbook. Kind of liking the short, sweet, to the point capabilities.
Which leads me to wonder if anybody has opinions on trouble ticket systems that work well with elog?
Thanks!
Miles Fidelman
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I use elog's built-in ticketing system, and use the auto-generated ticket number to cross-reference with other matters/documents/files. Much of the documentation for tickets is rather buried away under Subst <attribute> = <string>.
I've not found a way to link from an entry to a set of entries in another thread by their ticket number, particularly across more than one logbook. [This is possible via their elog entry number, and which logbook it is in]. The former would be usefil to cross-reference an incident which you identify external to the elog system - "Oh, it's another one like [Ticket no] NOV12-001" possibily easier than "Oh it's another one like elog:archive12/67142 ". Oh, the last bit should be highlighed as a (non-existant) link here, to show my point, nice of the ticket could be as well.
On the plus side, you can arrange the ticket number to show up in the thread display, quick search by ticket number, run different ticket colours (as it were) in different logbooks (i.e. different prefixes). Just ensure you don't archive the latest entry, as that can lead to duplication of ticket numbers.
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By "ticket number" are you referring to the Message ID, or is there some additional trouble ticket functionality buried away? And... can you point me to the documentation that's "buried away under Subst <attribute> = <string>? Thanks!
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Message ID is the internal numbering of each entry. It is the number that is used internally for generating the threads, and which you can reference with the elog:[message ID] code within an entry to cross reference the entry with that message ID.
"Ticket" is the name of an attribute. You define the attribute "Ticket", and can preload the attribute with the format you require(*). In the following extract of an elog.cfg file are the relivent lines to generate tickets, show the ticket number in the thread display, search for a particular ticket, and allow it to be edited when writing an entry - there are reasons. The attribute "Organisation" here is an example of another attribute you would enter with the initial entry, of course there will be others specific to your requirements.
Attributes = Ticket, Organisation, ...
Preset ticket = T#####
Thread display = $Ticket: $Organisation, ...
Quick filter = Ticket, ID
When you start an new entry, the Ticket attribute is prepopulated with a number. The first time will be T00001, subsequently it will be one higher than the currently existing highest ticket number in the logbook.
Why might you edit the ticket number? You may wish to go back and edit an old (complete) entry's ticket number so it has some obvious name - perhaps the solution of what proves to be a stock problem, that has become known by a pet phrase, so it can be found by searching for that phrase in the quick fillter "Ticket". That is a more advanced use of the ticket system.
(*) Further on the format of the ticket is in the documentation under Subst <attribute> = <string>
Sorry for multiple edits, why cannot I cross-reference an entry in this forum as I can in my local logbook?
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Wed Jan 9 18:20:41 2013 |
| Miles Fidelman | mfidelman@meetinghouse.net | Question | Linux | 2.9.0-2435 | Re: trouble ticket systems w/ elog? |
David Pilgram wrote: |
Miles Fidelman wrote: |
Updating my toolbox. Starting to use elog as, well, a logbook. Kind of liking the short, sweet, to the point capabilities.
Which leads me to wonder if anybody has opinions on trouble ticket systems that work well with elog?
Thanks!
Miles Fidelman
|
I use elog's built-in ticketing system, and use the auto-generated ticket number to cross-reference with other matters/documents/files. Much of the documentation for tickets is rather buried away under Subst <attribute> = <string>.
I've not found a way to link from an entry to a set of entries in another thread by their ticket number, particularly across more than one logbook. [This is possible via their elog entry number, and which logbook it is in]. The former would be usefil to cross-reference an incident which you identify external to the elog system - "Oh, it's another one like [Ticket no] NOV12-001" possibily easier than "Oh it's another one like elog:archive12/67142 ". Oh, the last bit should be highlighed as a (non-existant) link here, to show my point, nice of the ticket could be as well.
On the plus side, you can arrange the ticket number to show up in the thread display, quick search by ticket number, run different ticket colours (as it were) in different logbooks (i.e. different prefixes). Just ensure you don't archive the latest entry, as that can lead to duplication of ticket numbers.
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By "ticket number" are you referring to the Message ID, or is there some additional trouble ticket functionality buried away? And... can you point me to the documentation that's "buried away under Subst <attribute> = <string>? Thanks! |
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