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  67172   Wed Jan 25 15:42:17 2012 Reply Christian Herzogherzog@phys.ethz.chCommentLinux2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

[quote="Yoshio Imai"]Might this be related to the problem reported by [url=elog:67160]Allen[/url]?[/quote]

 

can't tell, but Chrome on Linux doesn't work either...

  67171   Wed Jan 25 15:40:17 2012 Reply Yoshio Imai$user_emailCommentLinux2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE
Might this be related to the problem reported by Allen?
  67170   Wed Jan 25 15:33:59 2012 Reply Christian Herzogherzog@phys.ethz.chCommentLinux2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:
[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...

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 [...] The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)

we know about certificates, thank you 
The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/
log says: TCP connection broken [...]

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Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question
Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out.
But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook!
Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem:
  • first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem.
  • second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out.
  • third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy.
The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first.
Good luck!

thanks for the fast resonse.
1) port 433 done. No change
2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/
3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless
speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?[...]

Okay, I did run out of ideas. I've never tested Chrome, but IE 8 and konquerer works fine here with SSL for our logbooks, but not for your logbook.

Regarding LDAP: you'll either need to convince Stefan Ritt or do it yourself ;-) Stefan did last year a kerberos binding for me: I was lucky that many other people had already asked for the same thing before me.

 
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ok thanks, I'll check the LDAP thing.

And just for the record: I have to conclude a clean install of elog 2.9.0 SSL does not work for half of the browsers out there on Debian Squeeze or Ubuntu Lucid right now. You might want to look into that.

 

thanks,

-Christian

 

  67169   Wed Jan 25 15:26:04 2012 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chCommentLinux2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:
[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...

Detect language » English
 
 [...] The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)

we know about certificates, thank you 
The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/
log says: TCP connection broken [...]

Detect language » English
 
Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question
Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out.
But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook!
Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem:
  • first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem.
  • second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out.
  • third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy.
The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first.
Good luck!

thanks for the fast resonse.
1) port 433 done. No change
2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/
3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless
speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?[...]

Okay, I did run out of ideas. I've never tested Chrome, but IE 8 and konquerer works fine here with SSL for our logbooks, but not for your logbook.

Regarding LDAP: you'll either need to convince Stefan Ritt or do it yourself ;-) Stefan did last year a kerberos binding for me: I was lucky that many other people had already asked for the same thing before me.

 
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  67168   Wed Jan 25 15:08:53 2012 Reply Christian Herzogherzog@phys.ethz.chCommentAll2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:
[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...]

 
Detect language » English
 
 
[...] The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)

we know about certificates, thank you 
The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/
log says: TCP connection broken [...]

 
Detect language » English
 
Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question
Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out.
But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook!
Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem:
  • first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem.
  • second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out.
  • third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy.
The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first.
Good luck!

 

 

thanks for the fast resonse.

1) port 433 done. No change

2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/

3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless

speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?

 

thanks,

-Christian

  67167   Wed Jan 25 14:48:36 2012 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chCommentAll2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:
[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...]

 
Detect language » English
 
 
[...] The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)

we know about certificates, thank you 
The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/
log says: TCP connection broken [...]

 
Detect language » English
 
Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question
Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out.
But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook!
Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem:
  • first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem.
  • second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out.
  • third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy.
The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first.
Good luck!

 

  67166   Wed Jan 25 14:05:46 2012 Reply Christian Herzogherzog@phys.ethz.chCommentAll2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...]

 
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If you want to use https you should know what a certificate is.
Certificates are used to encript the data, but at the same time they are used to identify the host.
ELOG is delivered with a self generated certificate.
This can be used to encript the data, but no certification authority knows this certificate, so nobody can guaratee that you are connected to the right host.
Most browsers will warn you, that nobody did and if you don't care you need to change the security settings of you browser to accept the connection anyway.
 
The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)

 

we know about certificates, thank you 

The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/

log says: TCP connection broken

 

thanks,

-Christian

  67165   Wed Jan 25 10:50:43 2012 Cool Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chCommentAll2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Christian Herzog wrote:

[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...]

 
Detect language » English
 
If you want to use https you should know what a certificate is.
Certificates are used to encript the data, but at the same time they are used to identify the host.
ELOG is delivered with a self generated certificate.
This can be used to encript the data, but no certification authority knows this certificate, so nobody can guaratee that you are connected to the right host.
Most browsers will warn you, that nobody did and if you don't care you need to change the security settings of you browser to accept the connection anyway.
 
The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)
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