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  69269   Wed Dec 2 17:54:51 2020 Reply Harry Martinharrymartin772@gmail.comQuestionLinux2.9.2-2475Re: Duplicate entries

I was only commenting on the predicament as I have run into it also.  I have required fields, but short of some sort of "abort" control (curiously missing from the otherwise vast offerings of elog), I don't see any way to ensure that identical replies don't occur in any circumstance that may arise.

My feeling is that an additional option to elog is appropriate, one that disables -- completely -- identical replies to a message.   I am not asserting that this must be done, just that it might be the only truly efficacious way to eliminate this issue.   Again, I was only commenting on it, but I would like to see such a feature implemented in elog.  I believe it can be justified because this would seem, intutitively, to be a potential problem for almost anyone using elog. 

I hope you will receive my response here in the constructive and friendly manner it is intended.

David Pilgram wrote:

I'm not sure if this is what you want.

If you want to prevent "accidental" replies being identical to the original message, you can force a situation where the user will be alerted that they have to do something if they really want to make a reply. 

An example.  I have an attribute "Action".  In order to make a reply.  I have set up that I must select an Action attribute every time.  If I forget, I get an error message screen, and can click to go back to the entry and have another attempt (nothing is deleted if you have added to the reply).

In the elog.cfg file, I have the lines

Required Attributes =  Action

Preset on reply Action = 

This hopefully would remind them that they are making a reply to an entry, and either make a reply, or abort the attempt.

 

Harry Martin wrote:

I find that I can reply to a message ("original" message, if you will) without doing anything to the reply message (the "copy" of the original message, if you will).  If I then submit it, it gets saved as a new message, identical to the one I replied to.

I read through the options at the end of the docs.  I did not see anything about a way to suppress identical messages, or a way to force the user to make some kind of change to make the reply different from the original.

David Pilgram wrote:

I've seen exact;y this effect, even though I have branching = 0 in my config file - so ordinarily no chance to have two
 replies to an entry.  My pointer aka mouse (I'm on Linux) is a bit dodgy, and sometimes disconnects/reconnects, so in effect gives a very fast double click.  I've always assumed that was the cause of the problem.  The two replies have incremental IDs, and both those IDs are listed in the "Reply to" header section of the entry.  I'm not sure how this overcomes the branching = 0 detail, though.

That is what I have assumed, but if others see this on occasion, perhaps it's got a different cause.

Alan Grant wrote:

Periodically (rarely) on manually adding a record into Elog it generates a duplicate record with its own incremented ID and I don't know why. I just delete the duplicate in the meantime but would like to know if anyone else has seen this and whether their is a answer/fix for it. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

  69270   Wed Dec 2 18:22:37 2020 Reply David PilgramDavid.Pilgram@epost.org.ukQuestionLinux2.9.2-2475Re: Duplicate entries

Hi Harry,

I'm just an elog (ab)user, not one of the developers.  My original 2017 reply was to report an issue that was due to hardware, but somehow overcame a configuration flag (no multiple replies to a single entry), which might have been the same problem as the original poster, Alan Grant, was observing, where one real reply mysteriously became two identical ones.  That appears to be different to the issue you have.

There is an "Abort" button; in version 2.9.2 it is "Back" (without a warning), somewhere along the development it because "Delete" (with a warning), but that only covers circumstances where a reply is started by accident/unintentionally and then it is realised.  My previous suggestion certainly would alert the replier that they have to do something - even if only selectiing an "Action" - before the new entry would be accepted,  This suggests that you have a circumstance where the reply being a duplicate of the entry is a real issue, and that neither of the suggestions above would help.  Don't forget, some people may *want* this.

It would be for Stefan and Andreas to put this on the elog wish-list.  I am a little puzzled as to how your problem arises - lazy user? - so perhaps more comment as to how this is occurring will help Stefan and Andreas understand the why.  There is somewhere on this site a page where you can add suggestions for the wish-list, but due to security certificate issues, I can only access the Forum at present and cannot point you to it.

Harry Martin wrote:

I was only commenting on the predicament as I have run into it also.  I have required fields, but short of some sort of "abort" control (curiously missing from the otherwise vast offerings of elog), I don't see any way to ensure that identical replies don't occur in any circumstance that may arise.

My feeling is that an additional option to elog is appropriate, one that disables -- completely -- identical replies to a message.   I am not asserting that this must be done, just that it might be the only truly efficacious way to eliminate this issue.   Again, I was only commenting on it, but I would like to see such a feature implemented in elog.  I believe it can be justified because this would seem, intutitively, to be a potential problem for almost anyone using elog. 

I hope you will receive my response here in the constructive and friendly manner it is intended.

David Pilgram wrote:

I'm not sure if this is what you want.

If you want to prevent "accidental" replies being identical to the original message, you can force a situation where the user will be alerted that they have to do something if they really want to make a reply. 

An example.  I have an attribute "Action".  In order to make a reply.  I have set up that I must select an Action attribute every time.  If I forget, I get an error message screen, and can click to go back to the entry and have another attempt (nothing is deleted if you have added to the reply).

In the elog.cfg file, I have the lines

Required Attributes =  Action

Preset on reply Action = 

This hopefully would remind them that they are making a reply to an entry, and either make a reply, or abort the attempt.

 

Harry Martin wrote:

I find that I can reply to a message ("original" message, if you will) without doing anything to the reply message (the "copy" of the original message, if you will).  If I then submit it, it gets saved as a new message, identical to the one I replied to.

I read through the options at the end of the docs.  I did not see anything about a way to suppress identical messages, or a way to force the user to make some kind of change to make the reply different from the original.

David Pilgram wrote:

I've seen exact;y this effect, even though I have branching = 0 in my config file - so ordinarily no chance to have two
 replies to an entry.  My pointer aka mouse (I'm on Linux) is a bit dodgy, and sometimes disconnects/reconnects, so in effect gives a very fast double click.  I've always assumed that was the cause of the problem.  The two replies have incremental IDs, and both those IDs are listed in the "Reply to" header section of the entry.  I'm not sure how this overcomes the branching = 0 detail, though.

That is what I have assumed, but if others see this on occasion, perhaps it's got a different cause.

Alan Grant wrote:

Periodically (rarely) on manually adding a record into Elog it generates a duplicate record with its own incremented ID and I don't know why. I just delete the duplicate in the meantime but would like to know if anyone else has seen this and whether their is a answer/fix for it. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

  69271   Wed Dec 2 22:13:52 2020 Reply Harry Martinharrymartin772@gmail.comQuestionLinux2.9.2-2475Re: Duplicate entries

 

David Pilgram wrote:

Hi Harry,

I'm just an elog (ab)user, not one of the developers.  My original 2017 reply was to report an issue that was due to hardware, but somehow overcame a configuration flag (no multiple replies to a single entry), which might have been the same problem as the original poster, Alan Grant, was observing, where one real reply mysteriously became two identical ones.  That appears to be different to the issue you have.

There is an "Abort" button; in version 2.9.2 it is "Back" (without a warning), somewhere along the development it because "Delete" (with a warning), but that only covers circumstances where a reply is started by accident/unintentionally and then it is realised.  My previous suggestion certainly would alert the replier that they have to do something - even if only selectiing an "Action" - before the new entry would be accepted,  This suggests that you have a circumstance where the reply being a duplicate of the entry is a real issue, and that neither of the suggestions above would help.  Don't forget, some people may *want* this.

It would be for Stefan and Andreas to put this on the elog wish-list.  I am a little puzzled as to how your problem arises - lazy user? - so perhaps more comment as to how this is occurring will help Stefan and Andreas understand the why.  There is somewhere on this site a page where you can add suggestions for the wish-list, but due to security certificate issues, I can only access the Forum at present and cannot point you to it.

Harry Martin wrote:

I was only commenting on the predicament as I have run into it also.  I have required fields, but short of some sort of "abort" control (curiously missing from the otherwise vast offerings of elog), I don't see any way to ensure that identical replies don't occur in any circumstance that may arise.

My feeling is that an additional option to elog is appropriate, one that disables -- completely -- identical replies to a message.   I am not asserting that this must be done, just that it might be the only truly efficacious way to eliminate this issue.   Again, I was only commenting on it, but I would like to see such a feature implemented in elog.  I believe it can be justified because this would seem, intutitively, to be a potential problem for almost anyone using elog. 

I hope you will receive my response here in the constructive and friendly manner it is intended.

David Pilgram wrote:

I'm not sure if this is what you want.

If you want to prevent "accidental" replies being identical to the original message, you can force a situation where the user will be alerted that they have to do something if they really want to make a reply. 

An example.  I have an attribute "Action".  In order to make a reply.  I have set up that I must select an Action attribute every time.  If I forget, I get an error message screen, and can click to go back to the entry and have another attempt (nothing is deleted if you have added to the reply).

In the elog.cfg file, I have the lines

Required Attributes =  Action

Preset on reply Action = 

This hopefully would remind them that they are making a reply to an entry, and either make a reply, or abort the attempt.

 

Harry Martin wrote:

I find that I can reply to a message ("original" message, if you will) without doing anything to the reply message (the "copy" of the original message, if you will).  If I then submit it, it gets saved as a new message, identical to the one I replied to.

I read through the options at the end of the docs.  I did not see anything about a way to suppress identical messages, or a way to force the user to make some kind of change to make the reply different from the original.

David Pilgram wrote:

I've seen exact;y this effect, even though I have branching = 0 in my config file - so ordinarily no chance to have two
 replies to an entry.  My pointer aka mouse (I'm on Linux) is a bit dodgy, and sometimes disconnects/reconnects, so in effect gives a very fast double click.  I've always assumed that was the cause of the problem.  The two replies have incremental IDs, and both those IDs are listed in the "Reply to" header section of the entry.  I'm not sure how this overcomes the branching = 0 detail, though.

That is what I have assumed, but if others see this on occasion, perhaps it's got a different cause.

Alan Grant wrote:

Periodically (rarely) on manually adding a record into Elog it generates a duplicate record with its own incremented ID and I don't know why. I just delete the duplicate in the meantime but would like to know if anyone else has seen this and whether their is a answer/fix for it. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

  69445   Sun Dec 12 08:12:57 2021 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionWindowslatestRe: Dump screenshot to new elog entry

I am no Windows expert. An option is to write your own application and use the "elog" command to post the output of the application to your ELOG.
There is as well a python library to access ELOG via http: https://github.com/paulscherrerinstitute/py_elog

Anthony J Krishock wrote:

Hello,

I am interested in finding a preferrably single-click way to capture a screenshot and posting it automatically to a new elog entry . I would be doing this from Windows. Is this possible?

Thanks

 

  67427   Mon Jan 14 13:33:19 2013 Reply Yoshio Imai$user_emailQuestionWindows2.7.8Re: Dual Time display and entry times
Depending on whether I understand your requirement correctly, the following solution should work:
  • define an additional logbook attribute, say "UTC Date"
  • preset it on entry creation and submission with the UTC timestamp (cf. section "Attributes" of the ELog configuration guide):
    Preset UTC Date = $utcdate
    Subst UTC Date = $utcdate
  • prevent the attribute from being changed manually by adding it to the
    Locked Attributes = < ... >
    and
    Fixed Attributes Edit = < ... >
    lists, respectively.
    You may also have to add it to the
    Remove on reply = < ... >
    list if replies turn out to keep the "UTC Date" value of the original entry.

Regards,
  66399   Mon Jun 15 16:44:35 2009 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chInfoWindowsV2.7.6-219Re: Dropdown boxes and Moptions

Arno Teunisse wrote:

Hello

I have a config file  :

Attributes = Author, Author Email, Category, Customer, server,HPSD_ID, Cust_ID ,Subject ,  Change Window
; which fields will be shown !!
List display = ID,Author, Category, Customer, server, HPSD_ID, Cust_ID,Subject ,  Change Window

Type Change Window  = datetime
# Type Change Window End = datetime
Options Category = Network , Server ,
Options Customer = Arag{A}, Frieslandbank{B}, Super de Boer{C}, NRE{D}

{A} Options server = arag-lin1,arag-lin2,arag-lin3,arag-lin4, arag-lin5, arag-lin6, arag-lin7
{B} Options server = rc1upas02, rc1upas22,rc1upas03,rc1upas04,rc1uptsm01,rc1upas07,rc1upas08
{C} Options server = xia61031,xia61032 ,xia61033,xia61034,xia61035,xia61036,xia61037,xia61038,xia61039,xia61040,xia61032 ,xia61033,xia61034,xia61035,xia61036,xia61037,xia61038,xia61039,xia61040
{D} Options server = server27,server32,server34 ,server37,server38,server40
Extendable options = Category , Customer,server
Required Attributes = server , customer, Subject, Change window Begin , Change Window End
 

This works OK, However when I change the {A} Options  to {A} Moptions in the above code i get an error which tells me that a required field is not selected. So, with the pull down it works, with Moptions ( select boxes )  it will say that a required field is not selected.  Any hints ?

regards Arno

Thanks for reporting this bug. I fixed it in SVN revisoin 2213. 

  67309   Thu Aug 16 15:39:43 2012 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux V2.9.1Re: Drop down search list?

harley skorpenske wrote:

 I'm having some confusion with configuring my logbook.  In the global section of the logbook I have the quick filter enabled, but it is not a drop down list, only an editable text field:

 

Screen_Shot_2012-08-16_at_9.21.35_AM.png

 

I think it is an attributes issue, but I'm having some trouble making sense of those from the syntax page.  Here is my config file:

 

 

[global]

port = 8080

 

usr = vulcanstaff

Max content length = 1073741824

Menu commands = New, Edit, Delete, Reply, Find, Last day, Move to, Copy to, Import, Help

RSS Title = $subject, posted by $author on $entry time

RSS Entries = 10

Quick filter = Date, Subject, Subtext

Use Lock = 1

Reverse sort = 1

Required Attributes = Author, Subject

 

[Experiment_Logbook]

Theme = default

Comment = Experiment Logbook

Attributes = Author, Author Email, Type, Category, Subject

Options Type =  Other

Options Category = Start Up

Extendable Options =Category

Page Title = $Subject

 

 

You get a drop-down list if you define several options for an attribut, like

Options Category = Start Up, Start Down, Other

The you can select one of the categories from the drop-down list.

 

  67310   Thu Aug 16 15:55:32 2012 Reply harley skorpenskeh9s@ornl.govQuestionLinux V2.9.1Re: Drop down search list?

Stefan Ritt wrote:

harley skorpenske wrote:

 I'm having some confusion with configuring my logbook.  In the global section of the logbook I have the quick filter enabled, but it is not a drop down list, only an editable text field:

 

Screen_Shot_2012-08-16_at_9.21.35_AM.png

 

I think it is an attributes issue, but I'm having some trouble making sense of those from the syntax page.  Here is my config file:

 

 

[global]

port = 8080

 

usr = vulcanstaff

Max content length = 1073741824

Menu commands = New, Edit, Delete, Reply, Find, Last day, Move to, Copy to, Import, Help

RSS Title = $subject, posted by $author on $entry time

RSS Entries = 10

Quick filter = Date, Subject, Subtext

Use Lock = 1

Reverse sort = 1

Required Attributes = Author, Subject

 

[Experiment_Logbook]

Theme = default

Comment = Experiment Logbook

Attributes = Author, Author Email, Type, Category, Subject

Options Type =  Other

Options Category = Start Up

Extendable Options =Category

Page Title = $Subject

 

 

You get a drop-down list if you define several options for an attribut, like

Options Category = Start Up, Start Down, Other

The you can select one of the categories from the drop-down list.

 

I forgot to mention - this is for searching the logbook.   So would the config file look more like this:

 

[global]

port = 8080

 

usr = vulcanstaff

Max content length = 1073741824

Menu commands = New, Edit, Delete, Reply, Find, Last day, Move to, Copy to, Import, Help

RSS Title = $subject, posted by $author on $entry time

RSS Entries = 10

Options Category = Date, Subject, Subtext

Quick filter = Date, Subject, Subtext

Use Lock = 1

Reverse sort = 1

Required Attributes = Author, Subject

 

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