Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: [...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[... Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English    [...] The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option) we know about certificates, thank you  The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/ log says: TCP connection broken [...] Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English   Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out. But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook! Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem: first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem. second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out. third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy. The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first. Good luck! thanks for the fast resonse. 1) port 433 done. No change 2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/ 3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?[...]

Okay, I did run out of ideas. I've never tested Chrome, but IE 8 and konquerer works fine here with SSL for our logbooks, but not for your logbook.

Regarding LDAP: you'll either need to convince Stefan Ritt or do it yourself ;-) Stefan did last year a kerberos binding for me: I was lucky that many other people had already asked for the same thing before me.

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Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: [...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[... 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Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option) we know about certificates, thank you  The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/ log says: TCP connection broken [...] Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English   Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out. But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook! Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem: first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem. second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out. third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy. The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first. Good luck! thanks for the fast resonse. 1) port 433 done. No change 2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/ 3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?[...] Okay, I did run out of ideas. I've never tested Chrome, but IE 8 and konquerer works fine here with SSL for our logbooks, but not for your logbook. [...]   Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English   [...] And just for the record: I have to conclude a clean install of elog 2.9.0 SSL does not work for half of the browsers out there on Debian Squeeze or Ubuntu Lucid right now. You might want to look into that. thanks, -Christian

Excuse me, but I beg to differ. I'm running ELOG V2.9.0-2425 on my production server, therefore I thought that you're maybe right that the latest SVN snapshot has a problem.

I've downloaded it just now from SVN (it is V2.9.0- 2427), compiled it on SL 5.7, installed it and I can easily access it with IE8, Safari, konquerer and firefox.

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• Run your logbook on the standard port 443 and retry. If the special port has been opened on the firewall, it has been likely only opened for specific clients like firefox 3.6, IE 7, etc. If you use a different client (FF 10, IE 9) the port can be blocked.
• Or just run the browser that does not work on the ELOG server. If it works to access ELOG via localhost, then you know for sure that it is the firewall.

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PS: I've solved this with the help of google  : have a look at http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2295421#2295421 about firewalls

Christian Herzog wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: Andreas Luedeke wrote: Christian Herzog wrote: [...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[... 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Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option) we know about certificates, thank you  The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/ log says: TCP connection broken [...] Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English   Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out. But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook! Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem: first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem. second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out. third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy. The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first. Good luck! thanks for the fast resonse. 1) port 433 done. No change 2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/ 3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?[...] Okay, I did run out of ideas. I've never tested Chrome, but IE 8 and konquerer works fine here with SSL for our logbooks, but not for your logbook. [...]   Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English   [...] And just for the record: I have to conclude a clean install of elog 2.9.0 SSL does not work for half of the browsers out there on Debian Squeeze or Ubuntu Lucid right now. You might want to look into that. thanks, -Christian   Excuse me, but I beg to differ. I'm running ELOG V2.9.0-2425 on my production server, therefore I thought that you're maybe right that the latest SVN snapshot has a problem. I've downloaded it just now from SVN (it is V2.9.0- 2427), compiled it on SL 5.7, installed it and I can easily access it with IE8, Safari, konquerer and firefox.   Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Detect language Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish ⇄ Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Armenian Azerbaijani Basque Belarusian Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Korean Latin Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Malay Maltese Norwegian Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swahili Swedish Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese Welsh Yiddish Detect language » English    well maybe SL 5.7 is the explanation - it's old as the hills. Maybe newer versions of libssl or whatever make a difference? I might also try on a recent Fedora, let's see..    update: clean install on F16, plain vanilla, same problem: TCP connection broken

See https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67184 to fix that problem. It is likely not a problem of ELOG, but of your firewall settings.

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Just for curiosity: did you try to start the non-working web-browser locally on the server?

> well it's not a server but my laptop, but yeah, the elog server and the browser ran on the same machine, no iptables.

Strange: I thought I was able to reproduce your problem, but no: whatever browser I try I can access ELOG with SSL if
browser and ELOG are running on the same host. Same as you: clean install but no problem occurs. I haven't tried on a
newer operating system yet. Still I tend to believe that it would not reproduce your problem. Maybe I'll try at home
with ubuntu. Let's first wait what the other two report: if those problems are not related to firewall issues, Stefan
will likely see into it anyway.

Finally I was able to reproduce the problem. I don't know why FF10 worked locally on the ELOG host last weekend, maybe I shouldn't have worked on it during a night shift. I can now confirm that ELOG has problems with firefox 10.0.1.

For those who need a quick workaround: you can set-up apache to access elog via a reverse proxy (like I do and like Stefan does for the ELOG forum does). That 'll work fine with new browsers like FF10.0.1 (at least for apache 2.2) ;-)

Some guidance how to set it up can be found here: https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Contributions/11

A shorter (but may be incomplete) summary:

• add in httpd.conf
  • Listen 443
    LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so
  • ServerName <fully-qualified-host-name>
  •  
• add in ssl.conf
  • <VirtualHost _default_:443>

ErrorLog logs/ssl_error_log
TransferLog logs/ssl_access_log
LogLevel warn
SSLEngine on
SSLProxyEngine on
ProxyPreserveHost On
<Location />
    ProxyPass         https://<fully-qualified-host-name>:444/
    ProxyPassReverse  https://<fully-qualified-host-name>:444/
    SSLRequireSSL
</Location>
SSLProtocol all -SSLv2
SSLCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT:!SSLv2:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW
SSLProxyCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
SSLCertificateFile "<cert-file>"
SSLCertificateKeyFile "<cert-key-file>"
</VirtualHost> 

• And in the ELOG configuration [global] section
  •  port = 444
  • URL = https://<fully-qualified-host-name>                 

Cheers

Andreas

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