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icon5.gif   outdated debian package, posted by Chris Körner on Fri Dec 18 18:08:54 2020 

Hi everyone,

I am currently trying to setup elog as a docker container. I wonder if there is any reason why the elog debian package is stuck at version 3.1.3? Would it be possible to update it to the latest version? 

 

Thanks very much!

icon5.gif   Request: make $text available for "subst", posted by Andreas Luedeke on Mon Mar 22 14:56:12 2021 

Hi Stefan,

I've just tried to read the $text with subst into another field and failed.
It looks like $text is only available for the execution of shell scripts in the "execute new|edit|delete = <script>" command.

Could that be added? I can think of a multitude of applications:

  • In my case I want to fill an attribute X either with free text or generated from other fields. The list view will show just X and not how it was generated.
  • I could fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text.
  • I could parse the text in a shell script and set other attributes according to the content.

Thank you for considering it.

Cheers, Andreas

    icon2.gif   Re: Request: make $text available for "subst", posted by Stefan Ritt on Mon Mar 22 15:10:12 2021 

$text is the full body text and can go over many lines. Since attributes are restricted to single lines, it's not possible to substitute them with the body text.

Stefan

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Stefan,

I've just tried to read the $text with subst into another field and failed.
It looks like $text is only available for the execution of shell scripts in the "execute new|edit|delete = <script>" command.

Could that be added? I can think of a multitude of applications:

  • In my case I want to fill an attribute X either with free text or generated from other fields. The list view will show just X and not how it was generated.
  • I could fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text.
  • I could parse the text in a shell script and set other attributes according to the content.

Thank you for considering it.

Cheers, Andreas

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Request: make $text available for "subst", posted by Andreas Luedeke on Mon Mar 22 19:59:13 2021 

While the input widget of text attributes is a single line, they can easily be multi-line in the display - when you use HTML at least.
And of course the user can parse the text field and generate a single line, if he wants to.
If you leave it to me, I'll create wonderful applications to that feature :-)

Please? ;-)

Stefan Ritt wrote:

$text is the full body text and can go over many lines. Since attributes are restricted to single lines, it's not possible to substitute them with the body text.

Stefan

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Stefan,

I've just tried to read the $text with subst into another field and failed.
It looks like $text is only available for the execution of shell scripts in the "execute new|edit|delete = <script>" command.

Could that be added? I can think of a multitude of applications:

  • In my case I want to fill an attribute X either with free text or generated from other fields. The list view will show just X and not how it was generated.
  • I could fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text.
  • I could parse the text in a shell script and set other attributes according to the content.

Thank you for considering it.

Cheers, Andreas

 

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Request: make $text available for "subst", posted by Sebastian Schenk on Tue Mar 23 13:42:27 2021 

I am not Stefan, but maybe I can add to this issue.

Personally I think it is not a good way to dump all the information into the text field and try to let the server parse it.
This could be archived more simply by using e.g. the python elog scripts or using the elog command tool to directly submit well structured elog entires.

As you have mentioned you could use the "execute new|edit|delete" commands to do the things you want to do.
Let the called script fetch the elog entry and alter it in the way you like and resubmit the entry.
(You have to make sure to don't generate a endless loop and you have to proably have to use a forwarding script as the elog "execute" command waits for finished execution).
This way you don't touch the 1500 characters limit of passing $text to the execute command.

Also the point "filling an attribute X with free text" needs some kind of (extended) parsing, which isn't possible with the subst command.
In our elog we such an attribute X, which is in some conditions filled with a set of other attributes and on other conditions just a normal input field, so the user could type custom text in.

"fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text" could be done with the above mentioned execute command or it could be done on the clientside (e.g. browser using javascript or if automatically generated by a script, then directly by the script)

I hope it helps to build our application.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Stefan,

I've just tried to read the $text with subst into another field and failed.
It looks like $text is only available for the execution of shell scripts in the "execute new|edit|delete = <script>" command.

Could that be added? I can think of a multitude of applications:

  • In my case I want to fill an attribute X either with free text or generated from other fields. The list view will show just X and not how it was generated.
  • I could fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text.
  • I could parse the text in a shell script and set other attributes according to the content.

Thank you for considering it.

Cheers, Andreas

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Request: make $text available for "subst", posted by Stefan Ritt on Wed Mar 24 10:06:26 2021 

Sure, attributes can be shown multi-line, but they cannot be stored in the elog internal database. The database is a very old design and only allows for single line attributes. Just look at a YYMMDDa.log file and you will see that. I would have to change the database format to somethign more advanced like XML, but that would take me a couple of weeks or months.

Soooorrryy! ;-)

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

While the input widget of text attributes is a single line, they can easily be multi-line in the display - when you use HTML at least.
And of course the user can parse the text field and generate a single line, if he wants to.
If you leave it to me, I'll create wonderful applications to that feature :-)

Please? ;-)

Stefan Ritt wrote:

$text is the full body text and can go over many lines. Since attributes are restricted to single lines, it's not possible to substitute them with the body text.

Stefan

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Stefan,

I've just tried to read the $text with subst into another field and failed.
It looks like $text is only available for the execution of shell scripts in the "execute new|edit|delete = <script>" command.

Could that be added? I can think of a multitude of applications:

  • In my case I want to fill an attribute X either with free text or generated from other fields. The list view will show just X and not how it was generated.
  • I could fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text.
  • I could parse the text in a shell script and set other attributes according to the content.

Thank you for considering it.

Cheers, Andreas

 

 

 

    icon3.gif   Re: Request: make $text available for "subst", posted by Andreas Luedeke on Wed Mar 24 22:09:56 2021 

Hi Stefan,
no problem: if I just strip all newlines from the $text field (in HTML you use <br> anyway, the newline has no function apart from whitespace), and my multiline attribute is fine to go.
I do not intend to make the attribute editable: it is just used for display. Because that allows me to create the attribute either from free text or from combining other fields - depending on conditional attributes.

As a special feature you could strip all newlines beforehand, when providing the $text for subst statements.

Cheers, Andreas

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Sure, attributes can be shown multi-line, but they cannot be stored in the elog internal database. The database is a very old design and only allows for single line attributes. Just look at a YYMMDDa.log file and you will see that. I would have to change the database format to somethign more advanced like XML, but that would take me a couple of weeks or months.

Soooorrryy! ;-)

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

While the input widget of text attributes is a single line, they can easily be multi-line in the display - when you use HTML at least.
And of course the user can parse the text field and generate a single line, if he wants to.
If you leave it to me, I'll create wonderful applications to that feature :-)

Please? ;-)

Stefan Ritt wrote:

$text is the full body text and can go over many lines. Since attributes are restricted to single lines, it's not possible to substitute them with the body text.

Stefan

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Stefan,

I've just tried to read the $text with subst into another field and failed.
It looks like $text is only available for the execution of shell scripts in the "execute new|edit|delete = <script>" command.

Could that be added? I can think of a multitude of applications:

  • In my case I want to fill an attribute X either with free text or generated from other fields. The list view will show just X and not how it was generated.
  • I could fill an attribute automatically with the character length of the text.
  • I could parse the text in a shell script and set other attributes according to the content.

Thank you for considering it.

Cheers, Andreas

 

 

 

 

icon3.gif   How about string constants in config files?, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Thu Oct 21 11:15:20 2021 

My config files are often large and use some shell scripting. In these shell scripting part I interact with files and execute scripts in specific folder.
It would be nice to have the ability to define for example a file path once and reuse it in different parts of the config file. It would help to make config files cleaner. For example:

Constant c_cid = "/usr/local/elog/logbooks/elog-campaignID.default"
Execute new = if ! [ -z "$CampaignID" ] ; then echo "$CampaignID" > $c_cid; fi

Preset CampaignID = $shell( if [ -r $c_cid ] ; then cat $c_cid; else echo None > $c_cid; echo None; fi )

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