Hello Folks,

Found an interesting problem with 2.3.7 under redhat 9.0 linux.

When you take the elogd.cfg file and the menu commands = <list> and guest 
menu commands = <list>, the config menu for edit the elogd.cfg stops 
working, yet if I change the URL manually, I can still get to the file and 
the menus do not change.  If I delete all menu commands, then all works 
without errors, yet the menus do not match default.

Also, the self registration function equal to 3 does not always send email.

Cheers,
Roberto

> Hello Folks,
> 
> Found an interesting problem with 2.3.7 under redhat 9.0 linux.
> 
> When you take the elogd.cfg file and the menu commands = <list> and guest 
> menu commands = <list>, the config menu for edit the elogd.cfg stops 

are you logged
if you have a guest menu there is no access in the admin
access is restricted with 
Admin user = 'your login name' 
in Global section



> working, yet if I change the URL manually, I can still get to the file 
and 
> the menus do not change.  If I delete all menu commands, then all works 
> without errors, yet the menus do not match default.
> 
> Also, the self registration function equal to 3 does not always send 
email.

it is send to the admin user list
be sure that smtp parameter is ok

> 
> Cheers,
> Roberto

> When you take the elogd.cfg file and the menu commands = <list> and guest 
> menu commands = <list>, the config menu for edit the elogd.cfg stops 
> working, yet if I change the URL manually, I can still get to the file and 
> the menus do not change.  If I delete all menu commands, then all works 
> without errors, yet the menus do not match default.

There was a recent bug which made "Edit elog.cfg" stop working if the 
language is not English. This has been fixed and the update is in CVS. If 
you use English, this might be another problem. Can you send me your 
complete elogd.cfg so I can try to reproduce your problem?

> Also, the self registration function equal to 3 does not always send email.

"Not always" is hard to understand. Either it works or it does not for a 
certain configuration. What you can do is start elogd with the "-v" flag, 
which outputs all communication to the console window. Among this 
information, you have the communication with the SMTP server when sending an 
email. Maybe you see some problem there which only sometimes occurs (like 
wrong email addresses or so...)

> When you take the elogd.cfg file and the menu commands = <list> and guest 
> menu commands = <list>, the config menu for edit the elogd.cfg stops 
> working, yet if I change the URL manually, I can still get to the file and 
> the menus do not change.  If I delete all menu commands, then all works 
> without errors, yet the menus do not match default.

Has just been fixed. Available under CVS and soon in 2.3.8.

Can you tell me what the following change in CVS offers

Revision 1.99 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs] , Fri May 2 
10:00:31 2003 UTC (6 days, 2 hours ago) by midas 
Changes since 1.98: +10 -1 lines
Diff to previous 1.98 
Added lock icon for protected logbooks


Does this relate to the request in article 309

and if so is there any flags set to enable it.

Cheers

> Can you tell me what the following change in CVS offers
> 
> Added lock icon for protected logbooks
> 
> Does this relate to the request in article 309

No, unfortunately not (yet). I'm still working on the problem described in 
elog:309. This "lock" icon only shows you in the logbook selection page which 
logbooks are public and which are protected by passwords (was another 
request).

> > Can you tell me what the following change in CVS offers
> > 
> > Added lock icon for protected logbooks
> > 
> > Does this relate to the request in article 309
> 
> No, unfortunately not (yet). I'm still working on the problem described 
in 
> elog:309. This "lock" icon only shows you in the logbook selection page 
which 
> logbooks are public and which are protected by passwords (was another 
> request).

could you add command for main menu guest user
Selection Page guest = ....

> could you add command for main menu guest user
> Selection Page guest = ....

I added "Guest Selection Page" coming in version 2.3.8

I suggest to add an attributes  like  OS

MOptions OS = linux, windows2000, windowsXP¨, windows2003

to indicate on which version we are speaking

> I suggest to add an attributes  like  OS
> 
> MOptions OS = linux, windows2000, windowsXP¨, windows2003
> 
> to indicate on which version we are speaking

Good idea, I added a "ELOG Version" as well.

> > I suggest to add an attributes  like  OS
> > 
> > MOptions OS = linux, windows2000, windowsXP¨, windows2003
> > 
> > to indicate on which version we are speaking
> 
> Good idea, I added a "ELOG Version" as well.

I suggest MOptions - people are lazy .... :)
by the way any possibilities to have 'multiple icons' ?

> I suggest MOptions - people are lazy .... :)

Not for the Version! I don't want to update this list on every release (:-(
Plus the list would get too long over time!

> by the way any possibilities to have 'multiple icons' ?

No, you have to use MOptions instead.

Used to deny a certain command to a list of users. This can be used to 
deny a guest user to enter new messages or modify a message. 


Hosts allow = <list> 
Hosts deny = <list> 

could you deny guest user like this 

guest is not loggeg ?
hubert is logged

Hosts deny = guest,hubert
does anybody has experience with deny based on IP adresse ?

> Used to deny a certain command to a list of users. This can be used to 
> deny a guest user to enter new messages or modify a message. 
> 
> 
> Hosts allow = <list> 
> Hosts deny = <list> 
> 
> could you deny guest user like this 
> 
> guest is not loggeg ?
> hubert is logged
> 
> Hosts deny = guest,hubert
> does anybody has experience with deny based on IP adresse ?

You probably mixed up deny of a command to a certain user and deny of hosts 
based on their IP. This has nothing to do with each other except the 
word "deny". Please read the documentation about how to set up IP 
based "hosts deny". This works only for certain IPs, but not for certain 
users. 

If you want guests not to be able to enter messages, but allow this to 
registered users, you should set up a password file, and a guest menu. 
Please refer to the elogd.cfg file for this forum which is done in this way. 
Have a look at elog:Config%20Examples/4 .

I have another tricky question.

Is there a way to simulate an ELOG SUBMIT?

We developed a module which automatically inserts new submits from ELOG 
into an SQL database. The module is in testing phase but we can already 
tell it does the job as it should. 

This allows us to copy ELOG entries into SQL database. But in some cases, 
we would like to transmit data in the other direction too - from SQL into 
ELOG (synchronization).

Now, one way to do that is to create .txt files with entries directly, but 
we find it too risky (file-locking mentioned in a question earlier today 
can be one of the issues). So we're contemplating a possibility that ELOG 
does these inserts for us by processing some simulated SUBMITS.

We're assuming that ON SUBMIT, you generate a POST (or a GET ?) over http 
which is then processed by the ELOGD server. This should be possible to 
simulate in our synchronization application. Are we correct in our 
assumptions?

Tomas

> Is there a way to simulate an ELOG SUBMIT?

Have a look at the elog utility which comes in the package. It does exactly 
this. It "simulates" a browser and does a submit directly to elogd. So you 
can either redo the elog code somewhere, or call elog with the proper 
command line parameters to insert logbook entries.

> > Is there a way to simulate an ELOG SUBMIT?
> 
> Have a look at the elog utility which comes in the package. It does exactly 
> this. It "simulates" a browser and does a submit directly to elogd. So you 
> can either redo the elog code somewhere, or call elog with the proper 
> command line parameters to insert logbook entries.

Thank you, Stefan!

I guess this question got somehow lost.
So once again : Is there a possibility to EDIT an existing message with 
elog.exe ?

Tomas


> > Is there a way to simulate an ELOG SUBMIT?
> 
> Have a look at the elog utility which comes in the package. It does 
exactly 
> this. It "simulates" a browser and does a submit directly to elogd. So 
you 
> can either redo the elog code somewhere, or call elog with the proper 
> command line parameters to insert logbook entries.

We did some tests of your elog utility. It does what we need except for one 
important thing: EDIT existing messages. Is there a way to edit en existing 
message? Adding a new message or replying to an existing message works fine 
but in our case we need to have the ability to modify messages that were 
created in the past.

Tomas

> I guess this question got somehow lost.
> So once again : Is there a possibility to EDIT an existing message with 
> elog.exe ?

This message did not get lost, but I'm on a conference right now in Elba and 
will come back next week, when I have time to answer all questions. Only so 
much for now: Editing in elog.exe is right now not implemented, but I will 
put it on the wishlist.

- Stefan

> I guess this question got somehow lost.

Got not lost, but I was on two consecutive conferences and just returned.

> So once again : Is there a possibility to EDIT an existing message with 
> elog.exe ?

Not at the moment. But I will put it on the wishlist.

Just upgraded (using rpms) elogd from 2.3.5 
I am running on RH 7.3

I noticed that my custom start page did not display the Welcome title icon.
It worked fine in prior elogs.

Here's the syntax of the config file:

Welcome Title = <img src="thumb.gif"><p><font size=4 color=white>Elog</font>
Resource dir = /usr/local/elog/


"thumb.gif" is located in /usr/local/elog, and is readable by all.
I also tried the full file name in src= 
<img src="/usr/local/elog/thumb.gif">  - same result.

any hints?

> I noticed that my custom start page did not display the Welcome title icon.
> It worked fine in prior elogs.
> 
> any hints?

Indeed there is a bug, it has to do that some icons wnt into the themes 
directory and are served now from there. So the bug will fixed in the next 
version (the fix is already avaliable from CVS). As a temporary workaround 
you just move your image to the themese/default/ directory and it should 
work.

An absolute path like /usr/local/... does not work, because this would open 
a security hole (someone could access any picture on your computer just by 
requesting an absolute path in the URL), so I removed that option from the 
software and the documentation.

> > I noticed that my custom start page did not display the Welcome title icon.
> > It worked fine in prior elogs.
> > 
> > any hints?
> 
> Indeed there is a bug, it has to do that some icons wnt into the themes 
> directory and are served now from there. So the bug will fixed in the next 
> version (the fix is already avaliable from CVS). As a temporary workaround 
> you just move your image to the themese/default/ directory and it should 
> work.
> 
> An absolute path like /usr/local/... does not work, because this would open 
> a security hole (someone could access any picture on your computer just by 
> requesting an absolute path in the URL), so I removed that option from the 
> software and the documentation.

I did the work-around (moving icon to theme/default) and it worked. Thanks.

Now if you just port elog over to an apache and mysql enviroment, it would be
perfect! 

> Now if you just port elog over to an apache and mysql enviroment, it would 
> be perfect! 

ELOG runs under apache, as described in the installation documentation, so 
half-perfect...

In the Config Examples logbook you mentioned a forum.css.  Do you have a 
link to that css and others?

Thanks

> In the Config Examples logbook you mentioned a forum.css.  Do you have a 
> link to that css and others?

Sure, that's what the "Config Examples" logbook is for. Just click on the 
tab on top of this page. The forum you will find 
under elog:Config%20Examples/4 .

Is it possible to make the logbook summary screen sort differently
 
For example on a customer name field it displays as follows :-

AEF
AXA
Abc
Acd
Ade
Aef
aaa
aab

Its sorting alphabetically but is putting upper case characters before 
their lower case equivalents, which in a customer list where lots of 
initials are used its making the list look non sorted rather than truely 
based on the character regardless of case.

Thanks in advance.

> Is it possible to make the logbook summary screen sort differently

I fixed that problem. The new version 2.3.7 released today contains the fix.