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  66689   Fri Jan 15 17:36:54 2010 Reply george papalexisgp@emich.eduBug reportWindows2.7.8Re: email message id

Stefan Ritt wrote:

george papalexis wrote:

We noticed some elog email messages were not showing up in our inboxes at random.  What we believe is happening is when a elog entry is created it is assigned a message id that the mail servers will use.  If a message is edited that same message id is used and some mail servers involved will ignore the duplicate message id.  We have also noticed when a elog entry is deleted the next entry created will assume the deleted entry message id and just like above the email will be ignored since it has a duplicate message id. 

The message ID is part of the "user data" of the email, not of the standard email header. So the mail servers "do not know" about the message ID, which make it strange that double messages are filtered. Nobody else reported this problem before. Maybe is it related to your SPAM filter? Can you check if the double entries are classified as SPAM in your case? 

 Here is the mail log:

Jan 12 13:51:54 techies lmtpunix[3184]: dupelim: eliminated duplicate message to user.jf id <neteng-1067@emich.edu> (delivery)

The message id we are experiancing problems with is in the header;

Message-ID: <neteng-1073@emich.edu>

Thank you for the help.

 

 

  66688   Thu Jan 14 18:55:12 2010 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux | Windows2.7.8-2280Re: quick filter

deletoille wrote:

Stefan Ritt wrote:

deletoille wrote:

Hello,

We would like to use more the quick filter command on attributes.

On the other hand, when we use it, the result does not displaying entries which are in answer of another attribute. Is there a command which allow that possibility like when we select display full entries in the search mode?

Thanks in advance

Xavier

 

I don't understand your questions. Can you please give an example. 

 Sorry for my english. In fact, i found the answer by myself. But I ll explain to you.

in attachement 1, a small part of our ELOG. When I choose FBT in the quick filter "groupe incriminé". Elog respond that there is no entrie found (attachement 2)

But, with the find function, when i select display full entries and FBT in "groupe incriminé", Elog show the entrie ( attachement 3).

I found the answer. In fact, Elog respond no entrie when threaded is selected. I have to choose Full or summary for that working.

sorry

Xavier

Actually what you report is a bug. The filtering does not work in threaded display mode, only in summary and full. I fixed that bug in the current SVN version, so if you download and compile it, you can give it a try. The fix will be contained in the next official release.

  66687   Thu Jan 14 17:14:21 2010 Reply deletoillexavier.deletoille@synchrotron-soleil.frQuestionLinux | Windows2.7.8-2280Re: quick filter

Stefan Ritt wrote:

deletoille wrote:

Hello,

We would like to use more the quick filter command on attributes.

On the other hand, when we use it, the result does not displaying entries which are in answer of another attribute. Is there a command which allow that possibility like when we select display full entries in the search mode?

Thanks in advance

Xavier

 

I don't understand your questions. Can you please give an example. 

 Sorry for my english. In fact, i found the answer by myself. But I ll explain to you.

in attachement 1, a small part of our ELOG. When I choose FBT in the quick filter "groupe incriminé". Elog respond that there is no entrie found (attachement 2)

But, with the find function, when i select display full entries and FBT in "groupe incriminé", Elog show the entrie ( attachement 3).

I found the answer. In fact, Elog respond no entrie when threaded is selected. I have to choose Full or summary for that working.

sorry

Xavier

 

 

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  66686   Thu Jan 14 16:44:49 2010 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux | Windows2.7.8-2280Re: quick filter

deletoille wrote:

Hello,

We would like to use more the quick filter command on attributes.

On the other hand, when we use it, the result does not displaying entries which are in answer of another attribute. Is there a command which allow that possibility like when we select display full entries in the search mode?

Thanks in advance

Xavier

 

I don't understand your questions. Can you please give an example. 

  66685   Thu Jan 14 16:43:16 2010 Question deletoillexavier.deletoille@synchrotron-soleil.frQuestionLinux | Windows2.7.8-2280quick filter

Hello,

We would like to use more the quick filter command on attributes.

On the other hand, when we use it, the result does not displaying entries which are in answer of another attribute. Is there a command which allow that possibility like when we select display full entries in the search mode?

Thanks in advance

Xavier

  66684   Wed Jan 13 12:27:32 2010 Reply David PilgramDavid.Pilgram@epost.org.ukInfoLinux2.7.8Topic changed to: emails sent/received after edited entries.
> > > > > I only got one email in response to the second entry of this thread, no email was received after the edit of the entry.  The
> > > > > next email received was due to the third entry of this thread.
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, let me try (sorry to all the users who subscribe to this forum for pestering you...):
> > > > 
> > > > 1st reply to your entry.
> > > > 
> > > > 1st reply edited.
> > > 
> > > I got two email notifications, the second one I attached as a screen shot. So I don't know what happened in your case. The problem 
> > > with the proxy is sometimes related to slow internet connections. If the HTML code transported over the internet has some delay 
> > > between packets, the proxy server sometimes drops the connection. I don't know how to fix that in my Apache. If you edit in HTML, 
> > > your browser downloads the JavaScript code and icons for the edit window, which is a lot of data, so the dropping is much more 
> > > likely.
> > Hi Stefan,
> > 
> > I confirm that this is a slow internet line, so that explains the Proxy Error.  
> > 
> > Maybe I should just keep my head down on threads where people use html coding ;-)
> > 
> > Did you receive two emails to my entry 66677?  I only received one.
> > 
> > I only received one email to your posting 66680 - the first entry, not the edited version.
> 
> I checked my email server and found that the second message really went though it. But then I realized that there is indeed the "Message-
> ID:" in the email header (which I completely forgot in meantime). So maybe George Paplexis is right in that some mail 
> server/forwarder/receiver ignore a second email if it has the same ID. That would mean however that I have to introduce a "revision 
> number" for elog entries, which gets incremented on each edit and gets attached the the message-ID, so that it becomes unique again. 
> That's quite some work and has to wait a bit.

I had come to the same conclusion about the mail header being the same (see my email to you for full details).  

Sorry to all your subscribers for the email ping pong, although if others did receive two emails on the relivent entries - one original, and
one edited, it would be interesting, if possibly now academic, to know.
  66683   Wed Jan 13 12:18:54 2010 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chInfoLinux2.7.8Topic changed to: emails sent/received after edited entries.
> > > > I only got one email in response to the second entry of this thread, no email was received after the edit of the entry.  The
> > > > next email received was due to the third entry of this thread.
> > > 
> > > Ok, let me try (sorry to all the users who subscribe to this forum for pestering you...):
> > > 
> > > 1st reply to your entry.
> > > 
> > > 1st reply edited.
> > 
> > I got two email notifications, the second one I attached as a screen shot. So I don't know what happened in your case. The problem 
> > with the proxy is sometimes related to slow internet connections. If the HTML code transported over the internet has some delay 
> > between packets, the proxy server sometimes drops the connection. I don't know how to fix that in my Apache. If you edit in HTML, 
> > your browser downloads the JavaScript code and icons for the edit window, which is a lot of data, so the dropping is much more 
> > likely.
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> I confirm that this is a slow internet line, so that explains the Proxy Error.  
> 
> Maybe I should just keep my head down on threads where people use html coding ;-)
> 
> Did you receive two emails to my entry 66677?  I only received one.
> 
> I only received one email to your posting 66680 - the first entry, not the edited version.

I checked my email server and found that the second message really went though it. But then I realized that there is indeed the "Message-
ID:" in the email header (which I completely forgot in meantime). So maybe George Paplexis is right in that some mail 
server/forwarder/receiver ignore a second email if it has the same ID. That would mean however that I have to introduce a "revision 
number" for elog entries, which gets incremented on each edit and gets attached the the message-ID, so that it becomes unique again. 
That's quite some work and has to wait a bit.
  66682   Wed Jan 13 12:00:04 2010 Reply David PilgramDavid.Pilgram@epost.org.ukInfoLinux2.7.8Topic changed to: emails sent/received after edited entries.
> > > I only got one email in response to the second entry of this thread, no email was received after the edit of the entry.  The
> > > next email received was due to the third entry of this thread.
> > 
> > Ok, let me try (sorry to all the users who subscribe to this forum for pestering you...):
> > 
> > 1st reply to your entry.
> > 
> > 1st reply edited.
> 
> I got two email notifications, the second one I attached as a screen shot. So I don't know what happened in your case. The problem 
> with the proxy is sometimes related to slow internet connections. If the HTML code transported over the internet has some delay 
> between packets, the proxy server sometimes drops the connection. I don't know how to fix that in my Apache. If you edit in HTML, 
> your browser downloads the JavaScript code and icons for the edit window, which is a lot of data, so the dropping is much more 
> likely.
Hi Stefan,

I confirm that this is a slow internet line, so that explains the Proxy Error.  

Maybe I should just keep my head down on threads where people use html coding ;-)

Did you receive two emails to my entry 66677?  I only received one.

I only received one email to your posting 66680 - the first entry, not the edited version.
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