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  69328   Wed Mar 24 17:36:15 2021 Reply Sebastian Schenksebastian.schenk@physik.uni-halle.deQuestionLinux3.1.3-1-1Re: Pre-fill Attribute with last entry

Sorry Stefan, but it is possible as you have the scripting ability.

The idea is to use "Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(script_to_get_the_last_entry)", where the script asks elog about the details and parses them.
The problem here is, that the elogd already is working to resolve the click on "new entry" request (or similar) and the script can't call elogd until the page is delievered, what is to late.
(If it would, the elogd will hang.)

So the script either has to directly parse all the entry.log files in the logbook folder or you need a second elogd running, which can answer the request from the script.
This second elogd could run on a different port and it doen't need to be public as it only answers internal requests and could use the same config as the "primary" elogd.
My idea for the script uses the python elog module to establish the connection and do the parsing.

I hope this helps as a workaround.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Nope, there is no way to acces the last value of an attribute. Sorry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi all together,

I struggle a lot with the following problem:
I try to prefill certain attributes with the value of exactly the same attribute in the last entry made in the same logbook.

I know I have to go with Preset, tried a view hours and searched the forum but i didn't find a thing. Am I overlooking a flag, an option or whatever, or is there just not such a functionality (which I dont believe)?

I thought about:
Preset Test_Attribute = $Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = Re:$Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(Command to somehow get last entry and this attributes value)
Not succesful though.

I would be very thankful for help, thanks in advance.

 

 

  69329   Wed Mar 24 18:02:07 2021 Reply Sebastian Schenksebastian.schenk@physik.uni-halle.deQuestionLinux3.14Re: automatically obtain entry ID from search

Hi Chris,

Additional the the HTTP request sugested by Stefan you could also use the search functionality of the elog python module.
For the HTTP request you may also need a way to provide credentials or transmit cookies, if the elog needs authentification.

I think your request to alter the samples logbook will be called with "execute new" or similar at submit time of the entry to the measurement logbook.
Then both methods will have the issue that elogd is still processing the submit and can't answer new requests until the old is finished.
Have a look at https://elog.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/69328 for possible workarounds.

Best wishes,
Sebastian

Stefan Ritt wrote:

You would have to do that on the scrip level. Use "curl" to search a logbook. Like following URL would search for all entries in this forum where you are the authoer, then return the entries in CSV format:

https://elog.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/?mode=CSV1&Author=k%F6rner

Then you can parese this CSV file and extract the entry ID, which you can pass to the elog client to submit a new entry to the other logbook.

Stefan

Chris Körner wrote:

Hi,

in our application I want to have, let's say in the simplest case, two logbooks. One as a database of samples we fabricated and one as a logbook for measurements. When a measurement on a sample is done and an entry is submitted to the 2nd logbook, I want to automatically edit or reply to the corresponding entry in the 1st logbook. For example I want to append a line in the free text field to have a full log of what happened to a sample there. We reference our samples with a unique auto-generated ID in both logbooks. Is is somehow possible to search the 1st logbook for that ID or any other attribute and obtain the elog entry ID since the elog client will need that ID for editing an entry?

 

 

  69330   Wed Mar 24 19:30:50 2021 Reply Dominic Schneiderdschneider@mein.gmxQuestionLinux3.1.3-1-1Re: Pre-fill Attribute with last entry

Hi Stefan, hi Sebastian,

thank you for your help. Ok I see its not that simple.

Is there maybe a way of executing a Script on submitting, writing the values of the Attributes into an temporary file and loading the values from this file via a preset shell script when opening a NEW entry?

Best wishes & thanks in advance

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Sorry Stefan, but it is possible as you have the scripting ability.

The idea is to use "Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(script_to_get_the_last_entry)", where the script asks elog about the details and parses them.
The problem here is, that the elogd already is working to resolve the click on "new entry" request (or similar) and the script can't call elogd until the page is delievered, what is to late.
(If it would, the elogd will hang.)

So the script either has to directly parse all the entry.log files in the logbook folder or you need a second elogd running, which can answer the request from the script.
This second elogd could run on a different port and it doen't need to be public as it only answers internal requests and could use the same config as the "primary" elogd.
My idea for the script uses the python elog module to establish the connection and do the parsing.

I hope this helps as a workaround.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Nope, there is no way to acces the last value of an attribute. Sorry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi all together,

I struggle a lot with the following problem:
I try to prefill certain attributes with the value of exactly the same attribute in the last entry made in the same logbook.

I know I have to go with Preset, tried a view hours and searched the forum but i didn't find a thing. Am I overlooking a flag, an option or whatever, or is there just not such a functionality (which I dont believe)?

I thought about:
Preset Test_Attribute = $Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = Re:$Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(Command to somehow get last entry and this attributes value)
Not succesful though.

I would be very thankful for help, thanks in advance.

 

 

 

  69331   Wed Mar 24 19:45:41 2021 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux3.1.3-1-1Re: Pre-fill Attribute with last entry

That would actually be my recommendation. There is a "execute new" which you can call when submitting a new entry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi Stefan, hi Sebastian,

thank you for your help. Ok I see its not that simple.

Is there maybe a way of executing a Script on submitting, writing the values of the Attributes into an temporary file and loading the values from this file via a preset shell script when opening a NEW entry?

Best wishes & thanks in advance

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Sorry Stefan, but it is possible as you have the scripting ability.

The idea is to use "Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(script_to_get_the_last_entry)", where the script asks elog about the details and parses them.
The problem here is, that the elogd already is working to resolve the click on "new entry" request (or similar) and the script can't call elogd until the page is delievered, what is to late.
(If it would, the elogd will hang.)

So the script either has to directly parse all the entry.log files in the logbook folder or you need a second elogd running, which can answer the request from the script.
This second elogd could run on a different port and it doen't need to be public as it only answers internal requests and could use the same config as the "primary" elogd.
My idea for the script uses the python elog module to establish the connection and do the parsing.

I hope this helps as a workaround.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Nope, there is no way to acces the last value of an attribute. Sorry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi all together,

I struggle a lot with the following problem:
I try to prefill certain attributes with the value of exactly the same attribute in the last entry made in the same logbook.

I know I have to go with Preset, tried a view hours and searched the forum but i didn't find a thing. Am I overlooking a flag, an option or whatever, or is there just not such a functionality (which I dont believe)?

I thought about:
Preset Test_Attribute = $Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = Re:$Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(Command to somehow get last entry and this attributes value)
Not succesful though.

I would be very thankful for help, thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

  69333   Thu Mar 25 07:48:24 2021 Reply Dominic Schneiderdschneider@mein.gmxQuestionLinux3.1.3-1-1Re: Pre-fill Attribute with last entry

Thank you very much.

So far I testet all functionalities and scripts to reach my goal. I will post a dummy of the solution later on for future purposes.

Best wishes 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

That would actually be my recommendation. There is a "execute new" which you can call when submitting a new entry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi Stefan, hi Sebastian,

thank you for your help. Ok I see its not that simple.

Is there maybe a way of executing a Script on submitting, writing the values of the Attributes into an temporary file and loading the values from this file via a preset shell script when opening a NEW entry?

Best wishes & thanks in advance

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Sorry Stefan, but it is possible as you have the scripting ability.

The idea is to use "Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(script_to_get_the_last_entry)", where the script asks elog about the details and parses them.
The problem here is, that the elogd already is working to resolve the click on "new entry" request (or similar) and the script can't call elogd until the page is delievered, what is to late.
(If it would, the elogd will hang.)

So the script either has to directly parse all the entry.log files in the logbook folder or you need a second elogd running, which can answer the request from the script.
This second elogd could run on a different port and it doen't need to be public as it only answers internal requests and could use the same config as the "primary" elogd.
My idea for the script uses the python elog module to establish the connection and do the parsing.

I hope this helps as a workaround.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Nope, there is no way to acces the last value of an attribute. Sorry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi all together,

I struggle a lot with the following problem:
I try to prefill certain attributes with the value of exactly the same attribute in the last entry made in the same logbook.

I know I have to go with Preset, tried a view hours and searched the forum but i didn't find a thing. Am I overlooking a flag, an option or whatever, or is there just not such a functionality (which I dont believe)?

I thought about:
Preset Test_Attribute = $Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = Re:$Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(Command to somehow get last entry and this attributes value)
Not succesful though.

I would be very thankful for help, thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

  69334   Thu Mar 25 12:50:08 2021 Reply Sebastian Schenksebastian.schenk@physik.uni-halle.deQuestionLinux3.1.3-1-1Re: Pre-fill Attribute with last entry

I am glad, we could help.

I can see a caveat in the recommendation.
By having "Execute New = echo $attrib > /path/last_attrib" and "Preset attrib = $shell(cat /path/last_attrib)" as the most simple construction.
But there are cases, where /path/last_attrib can get out of sync with the elog by e.g. editing or deleting the last entry, which is the most likely one to edit or delete.

I am aware, that you can make the logic more complex to fix this issue,
but basically you have the same information stored in two locations and you have to keep them in sync for the system to be reliable.
I am not sure, if it will be more hassle to construct a script/config system to keep them in sync or to find a solution which gets the information from the elog database.

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Thank you very much.

So far I testet all functionalities and scripts to reach my goal. I will post a dummy of the solution later on for future purposes.

Best wishes 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

That would actually be my recommendation. There is a "execute new" which you can call when submitting a new entry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi Stefan, hi Sebastian,

thank you for your help. Ok I see its not that simple.

Is there maybe a way of executing a Script on submitting, writing the values of the Attributes into an temporary file and loading the values from this file via a preset shell script when opening a NEW entry?

Best wishes & thanks in advance

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Sorry Stefan, but it is possible as you have the scripting ability.

The idea is to use "Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(script_to_get_the_last_entry)", where the script asks elog about the details and parses them.
The problem here is, that the elogd already is working to resolve the click on "new entry" request (or similar) and the script can't call elogd until the page is delievered, what is to late.
(If it would, the elogd will hang.)

So the script either has to directly parse all the entry.log files in the logbook folder or you need a second elogd running, which can answer the request from the script.
This second elogd could run on a different port and it doen't need to be public as it only answers internal requests and could use the same config as the "primary" elogd.
My idea for the script uses the python elog module to establish the connection and do the parsing.

I hope this helps as a workaround.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Nope, there is no way to acces the last value of an attribute. Sorry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi all together,

I struggle a lot with the following problem:
I try to prefill certain attributes with the value of exactly the same attribute in the last entry made in the same logbook.

I know I have to go with Preset, tried a view hours and searched the forum but i didn't find a thing. Am I overlooking a flag, an option or whatever, or is there just not such a functionality (which I dont believe)?

I thought about:
Preset Test_Attribute = $Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = Re:$Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(Command to somehow get last entry and this attributes value)
Not succesful though.

I would be very thankful for help, thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

  69335   Tue Mar 30 12:56:48 2021 Entry Hien Doanhiendoan86@gmail.comQuestionWindows314-2How to make personal ELOG to public
Dear experts,

I am trying to use ELOG for my projects which we want to record every daily activities.
I have successful installed the ELOG to the computer (Windows10 -64 bit).
However, I don't know how to make it public or online, that people can access it from their computers.
I am a very newer to the ELOG.
Could you help me on it, please?

Best regards,
Hien.
  69336   Tue Mar 30 13:43:46 2021 Reply Richard Stamperrichard.stamper@stfc.ac.ukQuestionLinux3.1.3-1-1Re: Pre-fill Attribute with last entry

Just noting that, depending on what you want to achieve, you may be able to use the threading functionality so that a "new" entry is actually a "reply" to a previous entry.  This will allow you to populate attributes with values from that previous entry without having to rely on storing information outside the system, with all the attendant concurrency risks already identified.

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

I am glad, we could help.

I can see a caveat in the recommendation.
By having "Execute New = echo $attrib > /path/last_attrib" and "Preset attrib = $shell(cat /path/last_attrib)" as the most simple construction.
But there are cases, where /path/last_attrib can get out of sync with the elog by e.g. editing or deleting the last entry, which is the most likely one to edit or delete.

I am aware, that you can make the logic more complex to fix this issue,
but basically you have the same information stored in two locations and you have to keep them in sync for the system to be reliable.
I am not sure, if it will be more hassle to construct a script/config system to keep them in sync or to find a solution which gets the information from the elog database.

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Thank you very much.

So far I testet all functionalities and scripts to reach my goal. I will post a dummy of the solution later on for future purposes.

Best wishes 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

That would actually be my recommendation. There is a "execute new" which you can call when submitting a new entry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi Stefan, hi Sebastian,

thank you for your help. Ok I see its not that simple.

Is there maybe a way of executing a Script on submitting, writing the values of the Attributes into an temporary file and loading the values from this file via a preset shell script when opening a NEW entry?

Best wishes & thanks in advance

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Sorry Stefan, but it is possible as you have the scripting ability.

The idea is to use "Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(script_to_get_the_last_entry)", where the script asks elog about the details and parses them.
The problem here is, that the elogd already is working to resolve the click on "new entry" request (or similar) and the script can't call elogd until the page is delievered, what is to late.
(If it would, the elogd will hang.)

So the script either has to directly parse all the entry.log files in the logbook folder or you need a second elogd running, which can answer the request from the script.
This second elogd could run on a different port and it doen't need to be public as it only answers internal requests and could use the same config as the "primary" elogd.
My idea for the script uses the python elog module to establish the connection and do the parsing.

I hope this helps as a workaround.
Best wishes,
Sebastian

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Nope, there is no way to acces the last value of an attribute. Sorry.

Stefan

Dominic Schneider wrote:

Hi all together,

I struggle a lot with the following problem:
I try to prefill certain attributes with the value of exactly the same attribute in the last entry made in the same logbook.

I know I have to go with Preset, tried a view hours and searched the forum but i didn't find a thing. Am I overlooking a flag, an option or whatever, or is there just not such a functionality (which I dont believe)?

I thought about:
Preset Test_Attribute = $Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = Re:$Test_attribute
Preset Test_Attribute = $shell(Command to somehow get last entry and this attributes value)
Not succesful though.

I would be very thankful for help, thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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