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Wed May 27 08:51:23 2015

Neal Grafton

neal.grafton@stfc.ac.uk

Andreas

We are still playing around with ideas, just thought I'd ask, didn't think it was possible.

We are ok with setting attributes but this is new to us as yet so may have more questions later.

Looking to produce, initially a shift running log and then many other logs for ISIS accelerator departments here at Rutherford Lab.

Thanks for the advice.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Neal,

you can preload words into one attribute field, but one field is either editable or not, you cannot protect single words in a field.

But the ELOG way to solve this would be to have multiple attributes: you would get one entry field for each attribute.

Just look at this logbook: it has the attributes Icon, Author, Author Email, Category, OS, ELOG Version and Subject.

You can change the content of each attribute (except of "Author", that field is made here to be not editable), but as a normal user you cannot change the names in front of the fields.

Did you've set up the demo logbook and played around with it? Because your question suggests to me that you don't figured out yet what ELOG does. Or as a direct answer: no, it does not make sense to me ;-)

But I'm sure you'll figure it out: ELOG is best learned by trial and error.

Kind Regards

Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

Sorry I call this field that you write in the subject field, a little confusing.

So is there anyway to fix the indicated words in place in this typing space so you can enter the text you want next to them but be unable to delete them. (does this make sense?)

Neal

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Dear Neal,

I don't understand your example. There is no such thing as a "subject field". You can define an attribute called "subject", like in this logbook.

But I would guess that you want to have five attributes "Time Off", "Reason", etc. that cannot be altered after an entry has been created? That's easy.

Or do you want to protect entries with specific content not to be deleted? That is not easy.

Please explain in more detail what you want to achieve, and I'll be happy to help.

Cheers, Andreas

Neal Grafton wrote:

I'd like to fix text or table in the subject field that can't be deleted or moved.

Can that be done in config? Example -

Time Off:

Reason:

Update By:

Estimated On time:

Detail:

67465

Thu Mar 7 12:52:12 2013

Re: Fixed Attributes on first reply

Tobias Meyer wrote:

Hi i am new here,

is there a way to use a Parameter like this "Fixed Attributes on first reply"?

No, only "Fixed Attributes Reply".

67466

Thu Mar 7 13:35:52 2013

Re: Fixed Attributes on first reply

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Tobias Meyer wrote:

Hi i am new here,

is there a way to use a Parameter like this "Fixed Attributes on first reply"?

No, only "Fixed Attributes Reply".

OK :-|

Thanks for the quick response

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Sat Jun 30 09:48:01 2007

Re: Fixed Attribute fields blank?

Grant Jeffcote wrote:

Not sure if this is my configuration only but in your latest compiled release V2.6.5-1873 when I do a reply or edit on an entry where I have specified Fixed Attributes Edit or Reply these fields now show blank on the entry page? They are still uneditable as a field of course and the text still shows on the list view display page but no text shows in these fields until re/submitted.

I'm playing with attributes right now since I'm going to implement a "multiple edit", where one can change attributes of several entries at the same time, but I cannot reproduce your problem with V2.6.5-1874 and this config file:

[demo]
Attributes = Author, Subject
Fixed Attributes Edit = Subject
Fixed Attributes Reply = Subject

Either I fixed it accidentally between 1873 and 1874 or it is config file related. Can you try that version and the little config file above? Since you use Windows, I made a elog265-3 for you. If you find that the little config works and your's doesn't, please send me your config.

2285

Sat Jun 30 21:29:30 2007

Re: Fixed Attribute fields blank?

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Grant Jeffcote wrote:

[demo]
Attributes = Author, Subject
Fixed Attributes Edit = Subject
Fixed Attributes Reply = Subject

Great job, thanks Stefan.
Accidental fix, new version works perfectly without any config file change.

625

Wed Jul 28 21:25:52 2004

Re: Fixed Attribute Reply

> Hi Stefan 
> YOu have been a great help on the Elog problem solving .
> I have another sort of bug , when i have a attribute type as date.
> And i have fixed the attribute on reply , i actually get a string of 
> number when i reply , and the date becomes not the orginal date in the 
> first message.
> 
> So the way i work ard is that i did not place the date field in the fixed  
> attribute reply which i will run the risk of pple modifying that entry .
> Can this be fix?

Yes, I fixed this. Revision 1.412 under CVS, new snapshot for Windows at the
download page.

66527

Fri Sep 4 09:48:55 2009

Re: Fix text prevents user from editing text during creation, instead of just edit

Allen wrote:

When we set Fix text = 1, according to the syntax, this should prevent users from modifying the text field during an edit, but it looks like it is blocking access at both time of edit and creation, meaning you can never add anything to it. Is that the intended functionality?

Thanks for reporting that bug. I realized that this was not working at all since a long time. I fixed it in SVN revision 2245.

2151

Thu Mar 1 22:36:01 2007

Re: Finding conditions in Search page.

Robert-Jan Schrijvers wrote:

This is my question: when i use the "search/find" page and select the first drop down menu "Locatie", the next field "Sessies" will not be displayed (and all following fields either). On the other hand, when i create a new entry, it works perfect, select "Locatie", field "Sessies" displays his content and so on. I hope that someone can help me with this.

This was never meant to work like that. On the find page, conditional attributes are not evaluated for following reason: Assume you want to search for Orgus = ZGN. Currently you simply type ZGN in the Orgus field and you're done. With drop down lists, you first would have to select Locatie = extern, then Sessies = Risc/Bus/Sms Pro, and only then you could select Orgus = ZGN. That would require three steps. Technically it's however possible to implement what you want, but I would wait until more people request this.

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