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icon4.gif   collapse does not seem to work as expected, posted by Harry Martin on Thu Jul 17 23:43:25 2025 

When I click on "collapse," even several times, I still see all the replies in each thread rather than just one entry representing each entire thread.

I am running elogd 3.1.5 on devuan chimaera (bullseye) which I built from source.  I had the same results with 3.1.4 and 3.1.3.

I tried to disable the quick filter just to see if that impacted the behavior, but it didn't.

If there are any other tests I can use to narrow the problem, please suggest them.  Without a working collapse feature, I cannot get a quick birdseye view of, say, all open threads.

    icon4.gif   Re: collapse does not seem to work as expected, posted by Harry Martin on Fri Jul 18 22:42:02 2025 

I should add that this does not happen in every logbook.  I'm looking into what the distinction is that causes this in certain logbooks and not in others.

Harry Martin wrote:

When I click on "collapse," even several times, I still see all the replies in each thread rather than just one entry representing each entire thread.

I am running elogd 3.1.5 on devuan chimaera (bullseye) which I built from source.  I had the same results with 3.1.4 and 3.1.3.

I tried to disable the quick filter just to see if that impacted the behavior, but it didn't.

If there are any other tests I can use to narrow the problem, please suggest them.  Without a working collapse feature, I cannot get a quick birdseye view of, say, all open threads.

 

    icon4.gif   Re: collapse does not seem to work as expected, posted by Harry Martin on Fri Jul 18 23:10:33 2025 

Figured it out:  I had "Sort Attributes" set on the logbooks that were failing to collapse correctly.  At least, I think that is the distinction.  

I think I can live with "Sort Attributes" disabled; I don't recall why I chose to set the "Sort Attributes" in the first place.  But I still think this is an issue.

Harry Martin wrote:

I should add that this does not happen in every logbook.  I'm looking into what the distinction is that causes this in certain logbooks and not in others.

Harry Martin wrote:

When I click on "collapse," even several times, I still see all the replies in each thread rather than just one entry representing each entire thread.

I am running elogd 3.1.5 on devuan chimaera (bullseye) which I built from source.  I had the same results with 3.1.4 and 3.1.3.

I tried to disable the quick filter just to see if that impacted the behavior, but it didn't.

If there are any other tests I can use to narrow the problem, please suggest them.  Without a working collapse feature, I cannot get a quick birdseye view of, say, all open threads.

 

 

    icon4.gif   Re: collapse does not seem to work as expected, posted by Harry Martin on Sat Jul 19 00:02:45 2025 

I also notice that collapse does not work properly if I have anything selected in the quick filter.

Harry Martin wrote:

Figured it out:  I had "Sort Attributes" set on the logbooks that were failing to collapse correctly.  At least, I think that is the distinction.  

I think I can live with "Sort Attributes" disabled; I don't recall why I chose to set the "Sort Attributes" in the first place.  But I still think this is an issue.

Harry Martin wrote:

I should add that this does not happen in every logbook.  I'm looking into what the distinction is that causes this in certain logbooks and not in others.

Harry Martin wrote:

When I click on "collapse," even several times, I still see all the replies in each thread rather than just one entry representing each entire thread.

I am running elogd 3.1.5 on devuan chimaera (bullseye) which I built from source.  I had the same results with 3.1.4 and 3.1.3.

I tried to disable the quick filter just to see if that impacted the behavior, but it didn't.

If there are any other tests I can use to narrow the problem, please suggest them.  Without a working collapse feature, I cannot get a quick birdseye view of, say, all open threads.

 

 

 

    icon4.gif   Re: 3-level conditional not working, posted by Harry Martin on Sun Jul 20 23:20:02 2025 

Tried a variant, this time for NEW entries (not EDIT), which I meant to do to begin with; sorry if that was confusing. 

[cond_test]
attributes = region, manufacturer, model

options region = american{us}, japanese{jp}, european{eu}
show attributes = region

{us} options manufacturer = ford, chrysler, gm
{jp} options manufacturer = toyota{toy}, nissan{nis}, mitsubishi{mit}
{eu} options manufacturer = audi, mercedes, bmw, volvo, fiat
{us} show attributes = region, manufacturer
{jp} show attributes = region, manufacturer
{eu} show attributes = region, manufacturer

{toy} options model = corolla, prius, miata
{nis} options model = sentra, murano
{mit} options model = starion, outlander, mirage
{toy,nis,mit} show attributes = region, manufacturer, model

 I'm not sure if my multi-character conditional names are allowed or not, but they do seem to work... somewhat.  Note that I even tried a couple different ways of specifying which attributes to show (single versus multiple OR conditionals).  The problem now is that all of the attributes are always shown, seeming to ignore the conditionals entirely.

Harry Martin wrote:

Not sure if this is a bug or not; if it is not, kindly reclassify the category.

Following is a small example of what I will dub a 3-level, conditional logbook:

[cond_test]
attributes = region, manufacturer, model

show attributes edit = region
options region = american{1}, japanese{2}, european{3}

{1} options manufacturer = ford, chrysler, gm
{2} options manufacturer = toyota{4}, nissan{5}, mitsubishi{6}
{3} options manufacturer = audi, mercedes, bmw, volvo, fiat
{1,2,3} show attributes edit = region, manufacturer
{4} options model = corolla, prius, miata
{5} options model = sentra, murano
{6} options model = starion, outlander, mirage
{4,5,6} show attributes edit = region, manufacturer, model

This example is hardly complete, but it is sufficient to demonstrate the issue I am running into.  This works until I select from the 2nd level (manufacturer); it won't display the dropdown for the model (I think my show attribute edit is supposed to display that).  Is there a restriction on how many levels of conditional I can have?  If there is, it would be disappointing because I am trying to do something similar to this example.

I hope there is something very simple I can do to correct this, or perhaps a completely different approach that accomplishes the same thing.  I'd like to stick with the multi-level selection process as I have done here.

I am running elog 3.1.5 on Devuan Chimaera (approx. Debian Bullseye, sans systemd) in a Virtualbox VM.

 

icon8.gif   show attributes directive does not work?, posted by Harry Martin on Sat Aug 16 02:48:42 2025 Screenshot_2025-08-15_17-57-59.png

Follows a very simple logbook definition:

[simple]
Comment = test show attributes directive
Attributes = a, b, c
Show Attributes = a

(Assume that all attributes are used farther down.  This is for illustration only.)   

To see what I see when I run this tiny elogd.cfg, see attachment.

"Show attributes" does not seem to be working because all of the attributes are shown, not just those specified in the directive.  Or do I misunderstand/forget something?

 

    icon8.gif   [CLOSED] Re: show attributes directive does not work? -- It does, if you use show attributes edit, posted by Harry Martin on Sat Aug 16 14:31:49 2025 

Well, it DOES work.... but only if you use the "Show Attributes Edit" directive.  "Show Attributes" is only for the single entry pages, whereas "Show Attributes Edit" is for the "entry pages."

I should have read the docs more carefully, sorry.  But isn't this a bit inconsistent with the way other directives work?  Usually one uses "<Directive>" for new entries, "<Directive Edit>" for editing existing entries, and "<Directive Reply>" for replies.  So I am guessing that "Show Attributes Edit" will be used for new and edit?

Harry Martin wrote:

Follows a very simple logbook definition:

[simple]
Comment = test show attributes directive
Attributes = a, b, c
Show Attributes = a

(Assume that all attributes are used farther down.  This is for illustration only.)   

To see what I see when I run this tiny elogd.cfg, see attachment.

"Show attributes" does not seem to be working because all of the attributes are shown, not just those specified in the directive.  Or do I misunderstand/forget something?

 

 

    icon2.gif   [CLOSED] Re: 3-level conditional not working, posted by Harry Martin on Sat Aug 16 22:19:03 2025 

Closed.  This "problem" was due to the same lack of document eyesight as https://elog.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/69889.   Sorry for all the noise.  New eyeglasses are forthcoming...

Harry Martin wrote:

Tried a variant, this time for NEW entries (not EDIT), which I meant to do to begin with; sorry if that was confusing. 

[cond_test]
attributes = region, manufacturer, model

options region = american{us}, japanese{jp}, european{eu}
show attributes = region

{us} options manufacturer = ford, chrysler, gm
{jp} options manufacturer = toyota{toy}, nissan{nis}, mitsubishi{mit}
{eu} options manufacturer = audi, mercedes, bmw, volvo, fiat
{us} show attributes = region, manufacturer
{jp} show attributes = region, manufacturer
{eu} show attributes = region, manufacturer

{toy} options model = corolla, prius, miata
{nis} options model = sentra, murano
{mit} options model = starion, outlander, mirage
{toy,nis,mit} show attributes = region, manufacturer, model

 I'm not sure if my multi-character conditional names are allowed or not, but they do seem to work... somewhat.  Note that I even tried a couple different ways of specifying which attributes to show (single versus multiple OR conditionals).  The problem now is that all of the attributes are always shown, seeming to ignore the conditionals entirely.

Harry Martin wrote:

Not sure if this is a bug or not; if it is not, kindly reclassify the category.

Following is a small example of what I will dub a 3-level, conditional logbook:

[cond_test]
attributes = region, manufacturer, model

show attributes edit = region
options region = american{1}, japanese{2}, european{3}

{1} options manufacturer = ford, chrysler, gm
{2} options manufacturer = toyota{4}, nissan{5}, mitsubishi{6}
{3} options manufacturer = audi, mercedes, bmw, volvo, fiat
{1,2,3} show attributes edit = region, manufacturer
{4} options model = corolla, prius, miata
{5} options model = sentra, murano
{6} options model = starion, outlander, mirage
{4,5,6} show attributes edit = region, manufacturer, model

This example is hardly complete, but it is sufficient to demonstrate the issue I am running into.  This works until I select from the 2nd level (manufacturer); it won't display the dropdown for the model (I think my show attribute edit is supposed to display that).  Is there a restriction on how many levels of conditional I can have?  If there is, it would be disappointing because I am trying to do something similar to this example.

I hope there is something very simple I can do to correct this, or perhaps a completely different approach that accomplishes the same thing.  I'd like to stick with the multi-level selection process as I have done here.

I am running elog 3.1.5 on Devuan Chimaera (approx. Debian Bullseye, sans systemd) in a Virtualbox VM.

 

 

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