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    icon2.gif   Re: Fail to install in mac, posted by Alex on Fri Feb 13 20:36:59 2015 

Thanks! now install works fine - but I cannot find how to open and start writing- I do

 

/usr/local/sbin/elogd
elogd 3.0.0 built Feb 13 2015, 16:42:32 revision 21dc563
CKeditor detected
ImageMagick detected
Indexing logbooks ... done
Server listening on port 8080 ...


but nothing pops up...I mean it is not possible to run "offline" ie locally on my mac ?

    icon2.gif   Re: Fail to install in mac, posted by Stefan Ritt on Fri Feb 13 21:18:46 2015 

Point your browser to http://localhost:8080 as written in the documentation

Alex wrote:

Thanks! now install works fine - but I cannot find how to open and start writing- I do

 

/usr/local/sbin/elogd
elogd 3.0.0 built Feb 13 2015, 16:42:32 revision 21dc563
CKeditor detected
ImageMagick detected
Indexing logbooks ... done
Server listening on port 8080 ...


but nothing pops up...I mean it is not possible to run "offline" ie locally on my mac ?

 

icon4.gif   Trouble to install ELOG V3.0.0-72a8401 in XP SP3, posted by Pedro Acosta on Mon Mar 23 17:02:03 2015 

Hi,

It´s not possible to install the last version V3.0.0-72a8401 over XP SP3, the previous version works well.  For Windows Vista Home Basic SP2 work fine the last version. 

I´m not sure if this the correct site to post this.

 

Regards

Pedro Acosta

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Trouble to install ELOG V3.0.0-72a8401 in XP SP3, posted by Pedro Acosta on Tue Mar 24 19:08:34 2015 

Maybe, nobody uses XP SP3 but i get Win32 invalid aplication error.  Not work!

Pedro Acosta wrote:

Hi,

It´s not possible to install the last version V3.0.0-72a8401 over XP SP3, the previous version works well.  For Windows Vista Home Basic SP2 work fine the last version. 

I´m not sure if this the correct site to post this.

 

Regards

Pedro Acosta

 

 

icon5.gif   elogd lost entry database without restart during file system trouble, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Thu Apr 30 09:54:17 2015 
I'm running ELOG since several years with rather heavy usage.
Last week I've upgrades from 3.0.0 to 3.1.0 and this week I had twice the same problem:
elogd lost the index for old entries and showed empty logbooks, without having restarted.
The logbooks appeared to be empty; new entries started with index "1".
The first time the origin of the problem were network troubles;
the second time it had been caused by a severe problem of our AFS file system service.
I never experienced this consequence for ELOG in the past when we had AFS problems.

Since the logbooks are used for the operation log of a user facility they continued to do new entries.
The next day I had to re-number the new entries and restart elogd and everything was fine.

I could understand if elogd crashes when the filesystem of the logbook goes away.
And when it restarts with an (temporarily) empty filesystem, that would explain what happened.
But it did not restart and the log file does not contain any information about any problem, 
just that suddenly all new entries in each logbook started with ID "1" again.

Stefan, any idea?
Anyone else ever experienced that with the new ELOG version (or older ones)?
    icon2.gif   Re: elogd lost entry database without restart during file system trouble, posted by Stefan Ritt on Thu Apr 30 13:01:29 2015 
First, I can only fix problems which are reproducible. Can we do another power outage at PSI again?

But seriously, I guess what happened is that elog sees an empty directory when the AFS server
goes down. If this happens, it rebuilds its internal (RAM based) indes, and sees no entries there.
So the next entry will be ID 1. That should be independent of the ELOG version. I guess if PSI
would have a power outage a year ago, you could have had the same problem.

I had problem some long time a go with AFS, where the network access blocked the program
for several minutes. I decided then to ONLY use local filesystems for elog servers, and do the
backup via rsync to an AFS account. Since then I never had problems.

Now it is hard for me to develop code which avoids the mentioned problem. I could maybe
check if there are many entries, and all over sudden there are no entries any more, the server
just stops with some detailed error message. But it is hard for me to mimic the AFS server 
outage. I can try to manually delete elog files and see what happens, but this only partially
mimics network problems.

/Stefan

> I'm running ELOG since several years with rather heavy usage.
> Last week I've upgrades from 3.0.0 to 3.1.0 and this week I had twice the same problem:
> elogd lost the index for old entries and showed empty logbooks, without having restarted.
> The logbooks appeared to be empty; new entries started with index "1".
> The first time the origin of the problem were network troubles;
> the second time it had been caused by a severe problem of our AFS file system service.
> I never experienced this consequence for ELOG in the past when we had AFS problems.
> 
> Since the logbooks are used for the operation log of a user facility they continued to do new entries.
> The next day I had to re-number the new entries and restart elogd and everything was fine.
> 
> I could understand if elogd crashes when the filesystem of the logbook goes away.
> And when it restarts with an (temporarily) empty filesystem, that would explain what happened.
> But it did not restart and the log file does not contain any information about any problem, 
> just that suddenly all new entries in each logbook started with ID "1" again.
> 
> Stefan, any idea?
> Anyone else ever experienced that with the new ELOG version (or older ones)?
icon8.gif   Problem with autosave functionality when combined with no 'edit' button, posted by Thomas Lindner on Tue May 5 07:33:50 2015 

We recently tried upgrading the ND280 elog instance to elog 3.1.0. [1] We seem to have some problems with this 'auto-save' functionality.  Specifically, it doesn't seem to play nice with the fact that we prefer to disable user's ability to edit old messages.  So we have (up to now), had the following set of commands specified in elogd.ccfg

Menu commands = List, New, Reply, Delete, Duplicate, Copy to, Move to, Find, Help

The problem is that we now get auto-saved messages, but no ability for the user to actually go back and finish the draft message.  You can see an example of this state in this test elog

http://neut17.triumf.ca:8080/demo/

Clicking on the draft message you can see that it can't be editted.  If you try to click 'new' then edit the draft, you get the message 'Error: Command "Edit" not allowed'.  So we had zombie draft messages, until we added the edit command back; but that defeats our preference that users not mess up old messages.

In general this auto-saving seems like a useful feature.  So the ideal solution for me would be to have some mode where users could edit/finish draft messages, but where we could still disable users from editting completed/finished messages.  Ie, where we can omit 'Edit' from the menu command, but still get auto-save.

A less ideal, but perhaps simpler solution would be that if an elog has omitted 'Edit' from the menu commands, then this auto-save/save functionality is disabled so that we don't get uneditable draft messages.

[1] https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67855

    icon2.gif   Re: Problem with autosave functionality when combined with no 'edit' button, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Tue May 5 11:01:36 2015 

Hi Thomas,

just my two cent: as a quick workaround (for now) you could restrict editing messages to a short time range, like 30 minutes. That would cover most cases of draft messages.
Restrict edit time = 0.5
 
But I agree that it probably makes no sense to limit the editing of draft messages: Stefan will probably fix this soon.
By the way Stefan: is there a way to disable the whole draft message feature?
If people are used to e.g. the lazarus addon for firefox, they might prefer their browser to keep their drafts confidential, instead of suffering from accidental premature draft postings ;-)
 
Thomas Lindner wrote:

We recently tried upgrading the ND280 elog instance to elog 3.1.0. [1] We seem to have some problems with this 'auto-save' functionality.  Specifically, it doesn't seem to play nice with the fact that we prefer to disable user's ability to edit old messages.  So we have (up to now), had the following set of commands specified in elogd.ccfg

Menu commands = List, New, Reply, Delete, Duplicate, Copy to, Move to, Find, Help

The problem is that we now get auto-saved messages, but no ability for the user to actually go back and finish the draft message.  You can see an example of this state in this test elog

http://neut17.triumf.ca:8080/demo/

Clicking on the draft message you can see that it can't be editted.  If you try to click 'new' then edit the draft, you get the message 'Error: Command "Edit" not allowed'.  So we had zombie draft messages, until we added the edit command back; but that defeats our preference that users not mess up old messages.

In general this auto-saving seems like a useful feature.  So the ideal solution for me would be to have some mode where users could edit/finish draft messages, but where we could still disable users from editting completed/finished messages.  Ie, where we can omit 'Edit' from the menu command, but still get auto-save.

A less ideal, but perhaps simpler solution would be that if an elog has omitted 'Edit' from the menu commands, then this auto-save/save functionality is disabled so that we don't get uneditable draft messages.

[1] https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67855

 

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