> > > Title says all :)
> > > 
> > > Is it possible to preload Options or Moptions from a text file or CSV instead of being load from the elogd.conf ?
> > > 
> 
> So basically, I have a list of 5-10 workers. I'll have to choose one for each entry I make into the logbook. But these workers will change from time to time 
> (students) and I don't want the staff to manipulate the config file manually..("Extendable options" is not an option as I will get to many "Darth Vader" entry for 
> sure..)
> 
> I asked if I could populate that option box from another logbook attribute and Andreas told me only possible via external scripts. 
> https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67877

Hi Francois. 
if those worker lists do change rather infrequently, then I would have an idea how to do it:

You could have an application that updates the Options or MOptions lists in the elogd.cfg file at midnight, 
and in case they actually did change the application restarts the elogd process afterwards.

I use such a mechanism to update my user list from our companies LDAP service every second Monday of a month at midnight.
This avoids misspelled user names or wrong email addresses and takes care that all employees (~2000) can log-in to our ELOG.
The passwords are handled anyway by kerberos authentication.

But I admit that it would be a cool feature to have "includes" in the configuration file for dynamic data sources. 
Shell scripts of course are useless for "Option" definitions: they would only be executed at start-up anyway,
and that can be accomplished as well by the above mentioned automatic changes to the config file.

Kind Regards
Andreas

Good day,

I'm populating 2 fields based on the Option set in a third one.
It works, but for some reason, sometimes when I change the entry from one value to another (from 3/01/2015 to 26/03/2016) , the field "# Volume" stays at the first position 
(149) and doesn't get updated... I tried both with Chrome and IE.

Attributes = #Réception, #Galée, #Volume, #Parution, Partie, Parution, Infographiste, Traitement, Réviseur, Révision, Contrôleur, Contrôle, Correcteur, Correction, 
Commentaires, Contrôle final
List display = Edit, #Réception, #Volume, #Parution, #Galée, Parution, Infographiste, Traitement, Réviseur, Révision, Contrôleur, Contrôle, Correcteur, Correction, 
Contrôle 
final
Show attributes edit = #Réception, #Volume, Partie, #Galée, Parution, #Parution, Infographiste, Traitement, Réviseur, Révision, Contrôleur, Contrôle, Correcteur, 
Correction, 
Commentaires, Contrôle final

Menu commands = Select, edit, Move to, Delete
List menu commands = Select, New, Find
Move to = Archives

Fixed Attributes Edit = #Réception, #Parution
Locked Attributes = #Réception, #Volume, Partie,  #Parution

Preset #Réception = 1-#####

Preset Partie = 1
Preset Infographiste = -
Preset Réviseur = -
Preset Contrôleur = -
Preset Correcteur = -

Options Parution = 3/01/2015{1}, 10/01/2015{2}, 17/01/2015{3}, 24/01/2015{4}, 31/01/2015{5}, 7/02/2015{6}, 14/02/2015{7}, 21/02/2015{8}, 28/02/2015{9}, 7/03/2015{10}, 
14/03/2015{11}, 21/03/2015{12}, 28/03/2015{13}, 4/04/2015{14}, 11/04/2015{15}, 18/04/2015{16}, 25/04/2015{17}, 2/05/2015{18}, 9/05/2015{19}, 16/05/2015{20}, 23/05/2015{21}, 
30/05/2015{22}, 6/06/2015{23}, 13/06/2015{24}, 20/06/2015{25}, 27/06/2015{26}, 4/07/2015{27}, 11/07/2015{28}, 18/07/2015{29}, 25/07/2015{30}, 1/08/2015{31}, 8/08/2015{32}, 
15/08/2015{33}, 22/08/2015{34}, 29/08/2015{35}, 5/09/2015{36}, 12/09/2015{37}, 19/09/2015{38}, 26/09/2015{39}, 3/10/2015{40}, 10/10/2015{41}, 17/10/2015{42}, 24/10/2015{43}, 
31/10/2015{44}, 7/11/2015{45}, 14/11/2015{46}, 21/11/2015{47}, 28/11/2015{48}, 5/12/2015{49}, 12/12/2015{50}, 19/12/2015{51}, 26/12/2015{52}, 2/01/2016{53}, 9/01/2016{54}, 
16/01/2015{55}, 23/01/2016{56}, 30/01/2016{57}, 6/02/2016{58}, 13/02/2016{59}, 20/02/2016{60}, 27/02/2016{61}, 5/03/2016{62}, 12/03/2016{63}, 19/03/2016{64}, 26/03/2016{65}

Options Infographiste = -, ML, TS, AN, AC
Options Réviseur = -, MB, JC, SS, AR, LH, CA, NB, CL, TM, NR, MS
Options Contrôleur = -, MB, JC, SS, AR, LH, CA, NB, CL, TM, NR, MS
Options Correcteur = -, ML, TS, AN, AC

{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51}Preset #Volume = 149
{53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65}Preset #Volume = 150

{1} Preset #Parution = 1
{2} Preset #Parution = 2
{3} Preset #Parution = 3
{4} Preset #Parution = 4
{5} Preset #Parution = 5
{6} Preset #Parution = 6
{7} Preset #Parution = 7
{8} Preset #Parution = 8
{9} Preset #Parution = 9
{10} Preset #Parution = 10
{11} Preset #Parution = 11
{12} Preset #Parution = 12
{13} Preset #Parution = 13
{14} Preset #Parution = 14
{15} Preset #Parution = 15
{16} Preset #Parution = 16
{17} Preset #Parution = 17
{18} Preset #Parution = 18
{19} Preset #Parution = 19
{20} Preset #Parution = 20
{21} Preset #Parution = 21
{22} Preset #Parution = 22
{23} Preset #Parution = 23
{24} Preset #Parution = 24
{25} Preset #Parution = 25
{26} Preset #Parution = 26
{27} Preset #Parution = 27
{28} Preset #Parution = 28
{29} Preset #Parution = 29
{30} Preset #Parution = 30
{31} Preset #Parution = 31
{32} Preset #Parution = 32
{33} Preset #Parution = 33
{34} Preset #Parution = 34
{35} Preset #Parution = 35
{36} Preset #Parution = 36
{37} Preset #Parution = 37
{38} Preset #Parution = 38
{39} Preset #Parution = 39
{40} Preset #Parution = 40
{41} Preset #Parution = 41
{42} Preset #Parution = 42
{43} Preset #Parution = 43
{44} Preset #Parution = 44
{45} Preset #Parution = 45
{46} Preset #Parution = 46
{47} Preset #Parution = 47
{48} Preset #Parution = 48
{49} Preset #Parution = 49
{50} Preset #Parution = 50
{51} Preset #Parution = 51
{52} Preset #Parution = 52
{53} Preset #Parution = 1
{54} Preset #Parution = 2
{55} Preset #Parution = 3
{56} Preset #Parution = 4
{57} Preset #Parution = 5
{58} Preset #Parution = 6
{59} Preset #Parution = 7
{60} Preset #Parution = 8
{61} Preset #Parution = 9
{62} Preset #Parution = 10
{63} Preset #Parution = 11
{64} Preset #Parution = 12
{65} Preset #Parution = 13

I also tried with :
{1, 53} Preset #Parution = 1
{2, 54} Preset #Parution = 2
{3, 55} Preset #Parution = 3
{4, 56} Preset #Parution = 4
{5,57} Preset #Parution = 5
{6, 58} Preset #Parution = 6
{7, 59} Preset #Parution = 7
{8, 60} Preset #Parution = 8
{9, 61} Preset #Parution = 9
{10, 62} Preset #Parution = 10
{11, 63} Preset #Parution = 11
{12, 64} Preset #Parution = 12
{13,65} Preset #Parution = 13

> Good day,
> 
> I'm populating 2 fields based on the Option set in a third one.
> It works, but for some reason, sometimes when I change the entry from one value to another (from 3/01/2015 to 26/03/2016) , the field "# Volume" stays at the first position 
> (149) and doesn't get updated... I tried both with Chrome and IE.
> 
> Attributes = #Réception, #Galée, #Volume, #Parution, Partie, Parution, Infographiste, Traitement, Réviseur, Révision, Contrôleur, Contrôle, Correcteur, Correction, 
> Commentaires, Contrôle final
> List display = Edit, #Réception, #Volume, #Parution, #Galée, Parution, Infographiste, Traitement, Réviseur, Révision, Contrôleur, Contrôle, Correcteur, Correction, 
> Contrôle 
> final
> Show attributes edit = #Réception, #Volume, Partie, #Galée, Parution, #Parution, Infographiste, Traitement, Réviseur, Révision, Contrôleur, Contrôle, Correcteur, 
> Correction, 
> Commentaires, Contrôle final
> 
> Menu commands = Select, edit, Move to, Delete
> List menu commands = Select, New, Find
> Move to = Archives
> 
> Fixed Attributes Edit = #Réception, #Parution
> Locked Attributes = #Réception, #Volume, Partie,  #Parution
> 
> Preset #Réception = 1-#####
> 
> Preset Partie = 1
> Preset Infographiste = -
> Preset Réviseur = -
> Preset Contrôleur = -
> Preset Correcteur = -
> 
> Options Parution = 3/01/2015{1}, 10/01/2015{2}, 17/01/2015{3}, 24/01/2015{4}, 31/01/2015{5}, 7/02/2015{6}, 14/02/2015{7}, 21/02/2015{8}, 28/02/2015{9}, 7/03/2015{10}, 
> 14/03/2015{11}, 21/03/2015{12}, 28/03/2015{13}, 4/04/2015{14}, 11/04/2015{15}, 18/04/2015{16}, 25/04/2015{17}, 2/05/2015{18}, 9/05/2015{19}, 16/05/2015{20}, 23/05/2015{21}, 
> 30/05/2015{22}, 6/06/2015{23}, 13/06/2015{24}, 20/06/2015{25}, 27/06/2015{26}, 4/07/2015{27}, 11/07/2015{28}, 18/07/2015{29}, 25/07/2015{30}, 1/08/2015{31}, 8/08/2015{32}, 
> 15/08/2015{33}, 22/08/2015{34}, 29/08/2015{35}, 5/09/2015{36}, 12/09/2015{37}, 19/09/2015{38}, 26/09/2015{39}, 3/10/2015{40}, 10/10/2015{41}, 17/10/2015{42}, 
24/10/2015{43}, 
> 31/10/2015{44}, 7/11/2015{45}, 14/11/2015{46}, 21/11/2015{47}, 28/11/2015{48}, 5/12/2015{49}, 12/12/2015{50}, 19/12/2015{51}, 26/12/2015{52}, 2/01/2016{53}, 9/01/2016{54}, 
> 16/01/2015{55}, 23/01/2016{56}, 30/01/2016{57}, 6/02/2016{58}, 13/02/2016{59}, 20/02/2016{60}, 27/02/2016{61}, 5/03/2016{62}, 12/03/2016{63}, 19/03/2016{64}, 26/03/2016{65}
> 
> Options Infographiste = -, ML, TS, AN, AC
> Options Réviseur = -, MB, JC, SS, AR, LH, CA, NB, CL, TM, NR, MS
> Options Contrôleur = -, MB, JC, SS, AR, LH, CA, NB, CL, TM, NR, MS
> Options Correcteur = -, ML, TS, AN, AC
> 
> {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51}Preset #Volume = 149
> {53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65}Preset #Volume = 150
> 
> {1} Preset #Parution = 1
> {2} Preset #Parution = 2
> {3} Preset #Parution = 3
> {4} Preset #Parution = 4
> {5} Preset #Parution = 5
> {6} Preset #Parution = 6
> {7} Preset #Parution = 7
> {8} Preset #Parution = 8
> {9} Preset #Parution = 9
> {10} Preset #Parution = 10
> {11} Preset #Parution = 11
> {12} Preset #Parution = 12
> {13} Preset #Parution = 13
> {14} Preset #Parution = 14
> {15} Preset #Parution = 15
> {16} Preset #Parution = 16
> {17} Preset #Parution = 17
> {18} Preset #Parution = 18
> {19} Preset #Parution = 19
> {20} Preset #Parution = 20
> {21} Preset #Parution = 21
> {22} Preset #Parution = 22
> {23} Preset #Parution = 23
> {24} Preset #Parution = 24
> {25} Preset #Parution = 25
> {26} Preset #Parution = 26
> {27} Preset #Parution = 27
> {28} Preset #Parution = 28
> {29} Preset #Parution = 29
> {30} Preset #Parution = 30
> {31} Preset #Parution = 31
> {32} Preset #Parution = 32
> {33} Preset #Parution = 33
> {34} Preset #Parution = 34
> {35} Preset #Parution = 35
> {36} Preset #Parution = 36
> {37} Preset #Parution = 37
> {38} Preset #Parution = 38
> {39} Preset #Parution = 39
> {40} Preset #Parution = 40
> {41} Preset #Parution = 41
> {42} Preset #Parution = 42
> {43} Preset #Parution = 43
> {44} Preset #Parution = 44
> {45} Preset #Parution = 45
> {46} Preset #Parution = 46
> {47} Preset #Parution = 47
> {48} Preset #Parution = 48
> {49} Preset #Parution = 49
> {50} Preset #Parution = 50
> {51} Preset #Parution = 51
> {52} Preset #Parution = 52
> {53} Preset #Parution = 1
> {54} Preset #Parution = 2
> {55} Preset #Parution = 3
> {56} Preset #Parution = 4
> {57} Preset #Parution = 5
> {58} Preset #Parution = 6
> {59} Preset #Parution = 7
> {60} Preset #Parution = 8
> {61} Preset #Parution = 9
> {62} Preset #Parution = 10
> {63} Preset #Parution = 11
> {64} Preset #Parution = 12
> {65} Preset #Parution = 13

Hi Francois,
as far as I know there is a limit on the number of conditions you can use (See elog:67303).
I guess you did hit that limit.

I think I've mentioned recently that ELOG is not a relational database, didn't I?
It is of course possible to drive screws with a hammer, but there do exist more suitable tools for that ;-)

Kind regards
Andreas

> Hi Francois,
> as far as I know there is a limit on the number of conditions you can use (See elog:67303).
> I guess you did hit that limit.
> 
> I think I've mentioned recently that ELOG is not a relational database, didn't I?
> It is of course possible to drive screws with a hammer, but there do exist more suitable tools for that ;-)
> 
> Kind regards
> Andreas

Got it...
But again, I found it strange that it works from time to time.... is it an elog limit or a javascript issue....

the guide mentions :
Options <attribute> = <list>
Usually, an text field is used for an attribute, where the user can fill in text of up to 100 characters.
but no words on options size...

I would say if it was a size issue it would not work at all no ?... but now it works from time to time....
But you are right, maybe I should get a bigger hammer :)

Seriously, I really hope It could make it... Could you try it on your side ? could I enable some sort of debug mode other than running elogd from a shell ?

I came accross the admin guide and I was reading / searching for a way to sync logbooks across sites...
elogd mention "-m" and "-M" ... not elog but elogd... with that description :
synchronize logbook(s) with remote server

Does it sync all logbooks ? is there any examples somewhere or advice ?

Thanks :)

 
> Seriously, I really hope It could make it... Could you try it on your side ?

My personal opinion here is, that if you want others to investigate your problems, then the best way to do it is like that:
- attach a minimal configuration that reproduces your problem (never attach a 100 line configuration, unless you've tested that the problem disappears
regardless of which line you remove!);
- attach the entry data, if the behaviour depends on the data;
- use a specific, to the point subject line;
- explain what you did, what happened and what you would have expected to happen;
- ask kindly; and then
- wait and hope for the best ;-)

(This is actually a very general procedure; I think it is applicable to all newsgroups, forums, etc.)

BTW: This tip was absolutely free of charge ;-)

>  
> > Seriously, I really hope It could make it... Could you try it on your side ?
> 
> My personal opinion here is, that if you want others to investigate your problems, then the best way to do it is like that:
> - attach a minimal configuration that reproduces your problem (never attach a 100 line configuration, unless you've tested that the problem disappears
> regardless of which line you remove!);
> - attach the entry data, if the behaviour depends on the data;
> - use a specific, to the point subject line;
> - explain what you did, what happened and what you would have expected to happen;
> - ask kindly; and then
> - wait and hope for the best ;-)
> 
> (This is actually a very general procedure; I think it is applicable to all newsgroups, forums, etc.)
> 
> BTW: This tip was absolutely free of charge ;-)

Andreas,
Thanks for your comments. Thats why I posted in the first msg my configuration details... I just hope there can be a solution :)
I saw in the doc that an attribute cant be bigger than 100 char. but I couldn't figure the maximum size for options...  I'm wondering if the issue comes from the browser not refreshing correctly or if its elog..
Again, I tought that if that was from elog limitations, the attributes wouldn't load the options presets at all... but they do, (attribute volume) ... just not all the time :)

I understand that you are proactive on this forum and eventually I was thinking of contributing with detailed specific config examples but for now I just would like to get on track :) 
The last time I used Elog was 10 years ago :) it changed alot since :)