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  66695   Thu Jan 28 09:54:56 2010 Question Sara Vaninisara.vanini@pd.infn.itInfoLinuxlatestELOG for personal use only

Hi,

I'd like to use ELOG as personal work logbook and database with search facilities

(e.g. record work progress, updates, plots, results, meeting schedule, outcome, TODO, etc...).

I will use it ONLY on my laptop, and I'd need to read the files when I don't have internet connection too.

I have no need to retrive files from elsewhere with a Web Browser, and I'd prefer not to open ports on the laptop.

Would this be feasible?

What's the setting I have to specify in elogd.cfg file?

Is there an example of such a ELOG use you could provide?

 

Thanks a lot

Sara

 

  66694   Mon Jan 25 09:28:18 2010 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chCommentWindows2.7.8Re: first install comments

Kenneth McFarlane wrote:

I am testing Elog for personal and group use. I am starting with a Windows install on a PC. (I came across Elog when doing a shift on ATLAS at CERN.)

It took me some time to discover how to access a local logbook and create a new one. I suggest adding short sections in a prominent place in the guides:

User guide:

"Accessing a logbook: To access a logbook, point your Web browser at the appropriate URL. The default for a local Elog is http://localhost:8080/logbookname. Logbook files are stored in directory logbookname which is a sub-directory of the logbook root directory, defined by the administrator. See the administrator guide on how to create a new logbook."

Admin guide:

"Creating a logbook: A logbook is created in three steps: 1) The logbook root directory is defined as an option of the elogd start command; 2) A sub-directory, of the logbook root directory, named logbookname is created; and 3) The elogd.cfg file is edited to define the logbook's attributes and options. No files are created in the sub-directory; that is done when entries are made."

Regards,

Ken McF

Dear Ken,

first of all thanks for trying to improve the documentation. For me as the developer it's always hard to imagine what people need to know, since I know already all about elog. Therefore I ask usually other people to write the documentation. The one for elog was written by Fred Pacquier.

When going through your comments, I realize that you had some problems on your first steps. But you say you have a Windows installation. If you use the normal installer, you get some entries in your "Start" menu under Windows, with which you can directly access your "demo" logbook which comes with the installation: Start -> All Programs -> ELOG -> Demo Logbook (requires running server). To create a logbook, just access your demo logbook, then clock on "Config", then you see a button "Create new logbook". Your point 1) mentioned above is actually not necessary if you use the default root directory. It might confuse people more than it helps. Point 2) is true, but only some internal database behavior, which might not be interesting to most users.

  66693   Sun Jan 24 18:00:11 2010 Smile Kenneth McFarlanekenneth.mcfarlane@hamptonu.eduCommentWindows2.7.8first install comments

I am testing Elog for personal and group use. I am starting with a Windows install on a PC. (I came across Elog when doing a shift on ATLAS at CERN.)

It took me some time to discover how to access a local logbook and create a new one. I suggest adding short sections in a prominent place in the guides:

User guide:

"Accessing a logbook: To access a logbook, point your Web browser at the appropriate URL. The default for a local Elog is http://localhost:8080/logbookname. Logbook files are stored in directory logbookname which is a sub-directory of the logbook root directory, defined by the administrator. See the administrator guide on how to create a new logbook."

Admin guide:

"Creating a logbook: A logbook is created in three steps: 1) The logbook root directory is defined as an option of the elogd start command; 2) A sub-directory, of the logbook root directory, named logbookname is created; and 3) The elogd.cfg file is edited to define the logbook's attributes and options. No files are created in the sub-directory; that is done when entries are made."

Regards,

Ken McF

  66692   Mon Jan 18 08:18:48 2010 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chRequestWindows2.7.8-2283Re: Collapse to Last and Quick Filter
> However (considering the bug fixed for the collapsed thread display), breaking the thread is not a confortable solution. 

Well, but it's the only way which gives you a 1:1 correlation between what you filter and what you see below. If you want to 
see the full thread for an entry which gets shown after you apply a filter, just click on that entry, and you will be taken to 
the single entry display which shows the full thread on top of it. This is the only way I can keep search results consistent, 
so I would rather like to keep it like this.
  66691   Mon Jan 18 02:14:01 2010 Reply Gabriele Sirrisirri@bo.infn.itQuestionWindows2.7.8-2283Re: quick filter

Stefan Ritt wrote:

deletoille wrote:

Stefan Ritt wrote:

deletoille wrote:

Hello,

We would like to use more the quick filter command on attributes.

On the other hand, when we use it, the result does not displaying entries which are in answer of another attribute. Is there a command which allow that possibility like when we select display full entries in the search mode?

Thanks in advance

Xavier

 

I don't understand your questions. Can you please give an example. 

 Sorry for my english. In fact, i found the answer by myself. But I ll explain to you.

in attachement 1, a small part of our ELOG. When I choose FBT in the quick filter "groupe incriminé". Elog respond that there is no entrie found (attachement 2)

But, with the find function, when i select display full entries and FBT in "groupe incriminé", Elog show the entrie ( attachement 3).

I found the answer. In fact, Elog respond no entrie when threaded is selected. I have to choose Full or summary for that working.

sorry

Xavier

Actually what you report is a bug. The filtering does not work in threaded display mode, only in summary and full. I fixed that bug in the current SVN version, so if you download and compile it, you can give it a try. The fix will be contained in the next official release.

Hello,

  I gave it a try. See: https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/66690

Gabriele




 

  66690   Mon Jan 18 02:13:19 2010 Reply Gabriele Sirrisirri@bo.infn.itRequestWindows2.7.8-2283Re: Collapse to Last and Quick Filter
Hello,
   I gave it a try using the svn version n. 2283 (12 Jan 2010).  The threaded display can be collapsed only if you don't 
apply any sorting. In the latter case, if you sort in some way ( with "Sort Attributes =" or "sort=" in the url), the 
thread cannot be collapsed anymore.

Also if I apply any filter from the quick filter bar, I cannot collapse the thread anymore (also without sorting). 

As example, these are the numbers of entries I obtain with my logbook :

  http://localhost:8080/mylogbook/?mode=threaded&expand=0     => 75 entries (OK)
  http://localhost:8080/mylogbook/?mode=threaded&expand=0&sort=EventID  =>  445 entries  (WRONG it should collapsed)
  http://localhost:8080/mylogbook/?mode=threaded&expand=0&Interaction=nuCC   => 335 entries 

However (considering the bug fixed for the collapsed thread display), breaking the thread is not a confortable solution. 
I choose to show the logbook in the threaded mode, because I'm interested in grouping the entries in threads. 
In my opinion, this feature is good (and it is my favourite) and should be preserved despite any sorting or filtering. 
This is why I suggest to ask to the user which entries (first or last) better applies for sorting and filtering. 

Ciao

   Gabriele


> You are absolutely right. When doing filtering, entries shown or not shown have not much to do with the filter. 
> Rather than messing around with first and last entries, I decided to break apart threads completely when doing 
> filtering, so the entries are treated as individual entries, just like what you do when filtering in summary mode. 
> This gives then consistent filtering results. The modification is done in revision 2282.
  66689   Fri Jan 15 17:36:54 2010 Reply george papalexisgp@emich.eduBug reportWindows2.7.8Re: email message id

Stefan Ritt wrote:

george papalexis wrote:

We noticed some elog email messages were not showing up in our inboxes at random.  What we believe is happening is when a elog entry is created it is assigned a message id that the mail servers will use.  If a message is edited that same message id is used and some mail servers involved will ignore the duplicate message id.  We have also noticed when a elog entry is deleted the next entry created will assume the deleted entry message id and just like above the email will be ignored since it has a duplicate message id. 

The message ID is part of the "user data" of the email, not of the standard email header. So the mail servers "do not know" about the message ID, which make it strange that double messages are filtered. Nobody else reported this problem before. Maybe is it related to your SPAM filter? Can you check if the double entries are classified as SPAM in your case? 

 Here is the mail log:

Jan 12 13:51:54 techies lmtpunix[3184]: dupelim: eliminated duplicate message to user.jf id <neteng-1067@emich.edu> (delivery)

The message id we are experiancing problems with is in the header;

Message-ID: <neteng-1073@emich.edu>

Thank you for the help.

 

 

  66688   Thu Jan 14 18:55:12 2010 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux | Windows2.7.8-2280Re: quick filter

deletoille wrote:

Stefan Ritt wrote:

deletoille wrote:

Hello,

We would like to use more the quick filter command on attributes.

On the other hand, when we use it, the result does not displaying entries which are in answer of another attribute. Is there a command which allow that possibility like when we select display full entries in the search mode?

Thanks in advance

Xavier

 

I don't understand your questions. Can you please give an example. 

 Sorry for my english. In fact, i found the answer by myself. But I ll explain to you.

in attachement 1, a small part of our ELOG. When I choose FBT in the quick filter "groupe incriminé". Elog respond that there is no entrie found (attachement 2)

But, with the find function, when i select display full entries and FBT in "groupe incriminé", Elog show the entrie ( attachement 3).

I found the answer. In fact, Elog respond no entrie when threaded is selected. I have to choose Full or summary for that working.

sorry

Xavier

Actually what you report is a bug. The filtering does not work in threaded display mode, only in summary and full. I fixed that bug in the current SVN version, so if you download and compile it, you can give it a try. The fix will be contained in the next official release.

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