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Wed May 21 21:06:38 2008 |
| Dennis Seitz | dseitz@berkeley.edu | Request | All | | Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox | I would like to be notified by email of some logbook entries regardless of whether the user has chosen to suppress email or not.
This way I will always be aware of new entries, and users will still have the option of notifying a larger group of other users, or not.
As far as I can tell, presently the Suppress Email checkbox overrides Email All. |
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Fri May 23 13:38:52 2008 |
| Stefan Ritt | stefan.ritt@psi.ch | Request | Windows | | Re: Can u send me the configuration file for this logbook ? |
Franck C wrote: |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Franck C wrote: |
Hi, I try to set up a logbook and i wanted to create something with icons (like this logbook) and it will be easier for me if i have ur config file 
Thanks a lot
Franck
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https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Config+Examples/2
- Stefan
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Ok thanks... but i meant this Forum logbook... Can u give me the configuration file and the css file if i need a different one ?
thanks a lot by advance
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The forum logbook is here:
https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Config+Examples/4
the CSS file you can directly load from the server under
https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/forum/forum.css |
65895
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Mon Jun 2 12:22:48 2008 |
| Stefan Ritt | stefan.ritt@psi.ch | Request | All | | Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
I would like to be notified by email of some logbook entries regardless of whether the user has chosen to suppress email or not.
This way I will always be aware of new entries, and users will still have the option of notifying a larger group of other users, or not.
As far as I can tell, presently the Suppress Email checkbox overrides Email All.
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If I make "Email all" override the suppress email checkbox, some uses would complain "I check the supporess box, but my admin still gets email, what am I doing wrong here?". So while this works for you, it will not be desired for everybody. I would have to add another parameter just for this request. Couldn't you instead use the RSS feed functionality? This way you well see all entries, independent of the email notification. You can use special RSS feed readers (your browser and email client probably support this already). |
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Mon Jun 2 23:30:39 2008 |
| Dennis Seitz | dseitz@cosmology.berkeley.edu | Request | All | | Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
I would like to be notified by email of some logbook entries regardless of whether the user has chosen to suppress email or not.
This way I will always be aware of new entries, and users will still have the option of notifying a larger group of other users, or not.
As far as I can tell, presently the Suppress Email checkbox overrides Email All.
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If I make "Email all" override the suppress email checkbox, some uses would complain "I check the supporess box, but my admin still gets email, what am I doing wrong here?". So while this works for you, it will not be desired for everybody. I would have to add another parameter just for this request. Couldn't you instead use the RSS feed functionality? This way you well see all entries, independent of the email notification. You can use special RSS feed readers (your browser and email client probably support this already).
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Hmm, I see your point, but wouldn't using the RSS feed have the same effect? Or are you saying the users just wouldn't know about it, so they wouldn't complain? 
I haven't explored the RSS feed options yet. I'll study them.
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65899
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Tue Jun 3 12:50:04 2008 |
| Stefan Ritt | stefan.ritt@psi.ch | Request | All | | Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
I would like to be notified by email of some logbook entries regardless of whether the user has chosen to suppress email or not.
This way I will always be aware of new entries, and users will still have the option of notifying a larger group of other users, or not.
As far as I can tell, presently the Suppress Email checkbox overrides Email All.
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If I make "Email all" override the suppress email checkbox, some uses would complain "I check the supporess box, but my admin still gets email, what am I doing wrong here?". So while this works for you, it will not be desired for everybody. I would have to add another parameter just for this request. Couldn't you instead use the RSS feed functionality? This way you well see all entries, independent of the email notification. You can use special RSS feed readers (your browser and email client probably support this already).
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Hmm, I see your point, but wouldn't using the RSS feed have the same effect? Or are you saying the users just wouldn't know about it, so they wouldn't complain? 
I haven't explored the RSS feed options yet. I'll study them.
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The RSS feed you have to "pull" actively with a client (which of course can be periodically in an automatic way). So no pull, no notification, happy users  |
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Thu Jun 5 01:36:07 2008 |
| Dennis Seitz | dseitz@cosmology.berkeley.edu | Request | All | | Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
I would like to be notified by email of some logbook entries regardless of whether the user has chosen to suppress email or not.
This way I will always be aware of new entries, and users will still have the option of notifying a larger group of other users, or not.
As far as I can tell, presently the Suppress Email checkbox overrides Email All.
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If I make "Email all" override the suppress email checkbox, some uses would complain "I check the supporess box, but my admin still gets email, what am I doing wrong here?". So while this works for you, it will not be desired for everybody. I would have to add another parameter just for this request. Couldn't you instead use the RSS feed functionality? This way you well see all entries, independent of the email notification. You can use special RSS feed readers (your browser and email client probably support this already).
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Hmm, I see your point, but wouldn't using the RSS feed have the same effect? Or are you saying the users just wouldn't know about it, so they wouldn't complain? 
I haven't explored the RSS feed options yet. I'll study them.
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The RSS feed you have to "pull" actively with a client (which of course can be periodically in an automatic way). So no pull, no notification, happy users 
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Hmm. Is there some way to set up a private RSS feed for me only?
If not, I would humbly ask that you add an option. I don't want to generate unnecessary email to users, but I need to always be notified for some logbooks. I'm responsible for some hardware on our project and I want to know any time someone reports a problem. The best solution is to still let users decide whether they want to subscribe to logbooks, and whether entry notification should be suppressed or not, but also have an admin override privilege. There could be a disclaimer "admin is automatically notified of all entries" at the top of the edit page.
If this can be done with a private RSS feed to me only, then that's fine. I still don't use or understand RSS feeds very well, sorry. I'd rather all users did not have the option to be alerted to every new entry, when email suppression is enabled. That would be contradictory, I think.
Thanks for listening!
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65902
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Thu Jun 5 02:06:31 2008 |
| Dennis Seitz | denseitz@comcast.net | Request | | | thumbnails in list and entry views? | It would be very cool to be able to select Full from the view menu and then scroll rapidly through all entries looking for that high res photo of a SQUID chip I took two months ago. Presently the photos are all full size so the Full view is slow to load and it takes a lot of scrolling to navigate. Can you implement thumbnails in Full view, and also in the single entry view? Clicking on the thumbnail should, of course, open the full size image.
For now, I'm just using the wysiwyg html entry format and dropping images into the entry, then right-clicking to set a small image size. Clicking on the image gives me a new window with the full size image, which works great.
I hope you don't mind the barrage of suggestions, and thanks again. |
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Thu Jun 5 08:17:59 2008 |
| Stefan Ritt | stefan.ritt@psi.ch | Request | All | | Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox |
Dennis Seitz wrote: |
Hmm. Is there some way to set up a private RSS feed for me only?
If not, I would humbly ask that you add an option. I don't want to generate unnecessary email to users, but I need to always be notified for some logbooks. I'm responsible for some hardware on our project and I want to know any time someone reports a problem. The best solution is to still let users decide whether they want to subscribe to logbooks, and whether entry notification should be suppressed or not, but also have an admin override privilege. There could be a disclaimer "admin is automatically notified of all entries" at the top of the edit page.
If this can be done with a private RSS feed to me only, then that's fine. I still don't use or understand RSS feeds very well, sorry. I'd rather all users did not have the option to be alerted to every new entry, when email suppression is enabled. That would be contradictory, I think.
Thanks for listening!
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The RSS feed is private by default. You install a client (like Sharp Reader under Windows). It stays in the icon tray and periodically checks for new ELOG entries. If there is one, it pops up a window similar to your email client. You click on it, and it shows all entries like this:

All you have to do is to enter the URL of the ELOG logook. Just add "elog.rdf" to the URL of the logbook as you would access it from your browser.
Here is the pop-up I got from writing just this entry:

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