Read Validation, posted by Ed Strohak on Sat Apr 2 12:43:17 2016
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I'm looking for config examples of a shift log book where operators have to check a box or select their name from a list to prove they have read the latest entries in the log, can anyone help.
Thanks for your time.
Ed.. |
Re: Read Validation, posted by Stefan Ritt on Sat Apr 2 17:56:04 2016
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Unfortunately a read confirmation is not foreseen in the Elog system. You would have to define one attribute for each shift worker, like "John has read", "Steve has read" and so on. Then each of the shift workes has to "Edit" each message an check his/her checkmark manually.
Stefan
Ed Strohak wrote: |
I'm looking for config examples of a shift log book where operators have to check a box or select their name from a list to prove they have read the latest entries in the log, can anyone help.
Thanks for your time.
Ed..
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Re: Read Validation, posted by David Pilgram on Sat Apr 2 21:21:04 2016
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As a variant of what Stefan has suggested:
Perhaps a simple comment is set up as the pre-loaded reply - perhaps including date and time. Maybe include the author's name in the comment, but all that is available anyway (see documentation for that). This bit isn't vital.
Then each user simply has to *reply* to the message concerned, and you then get the list of who has read it, available in threaded view of the comment and replies.
Of course this works best with small numbers of users, and where threads are never very long. Also, it means that you can lock the original message (prevent it being edited) which may be a particular concern depending on what you are using elog for.
You might also want to define an attribute that a reader can tick to say that they have taken action if it is important that someone has to take further action (as opposed to just reading) - and maybe that changes the colour of the background or the icon in front of the topic. Then there would be a record as to who has done the necessary, and later readers will know the matter is for information rather than needing attention. For example,. who kicked the power supply to the ion source on Monday morning to "wake it up" (this is true, but pre-elog, so was a paper record). John kicked it last Monday, and the power supply respects John, may be a statistic one could find from such information recorded as suggested here.
You may want a second attribute people have to explicity select so as to show they understand what they've read, rather than just reply/submit without having read... e.g. they have to select a digit of the ticket number, or some auto-generated number (or letter, I'm not characterist) that is within the original comment.
We all know people who click on things they've never read, and come on, we've all done it at times...
David.
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Unfortunately a read confirmation is not foreseen in the Elog system. You would have to define one attribute for each shift worker, like "John has read", "Steve has read" and so on. Then each of the shift workes has to "Edit" each message an check his/her checkmark manually.
Stefan
Ed Strohak wrote: |
I'm looking for config examples of a shift log book where operators have to check a box or select their name from a list to prove they have read the latest entries in the log, can anyone help.
Thanks for your time.
Ed..
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Re: Read Validation, posted by Ed Strohak on Mon Apr 4 13:05:55 2016
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Appreciate the help..
Thanks
David Pilgram wrote: |
As a variant of what Stefan has suggested:
Perhaps a simple comment is set up as the pre-loaded reply - perhaps including date and time. Maybe include the author's name in the comment, but all that is available anyway (see documentation for that). This bit isn't vital.
Then each user simply has to *reply* to the message concerned, and you then get the list of who has read it, available in threaded view of the comment and replies.
Of course this works best with small numbers of users, and where threads are never very long. Also, it means that you can lock the original message (prevent it being edited) which may be a particular concern depending on what you are using elog for.
You might also want to define an attribute that a reader can tick to say that they have taken action if it is important that someone has to take further action (as opposed to just reading) - and maybe that changes the colour of the background or the icon in front of the topic. Then there would be a record as to who has done the necessary, and later readers will know the matter is for information rather than needing attention. For example,. who kicked the power supply to the ion source on Monday morning to "wake it up" (this is true, but pre-elog, so was a paper record). John kicked it last Monday, and the power supply respects John, may be a statistic one could find from such information recorded as suggested here.
You may want a second attribute people have to explicity select so as to show they understand what they've read, rather than just reply/submit without having read... e.g. they have to select a digit of the ticket number, or some auto-generated number (or letter, I'm not characterist) that is within the original comment.
We all know people who click on things they've never read, and come on, we've all done it at times...
David.
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Unfortunately a read confirmation is not foreseen in the Elog system. You would have to define one attribute for each shift worker, like "John has read", "Steve has read" and so on. Then each of the shift workes has to "Edit" each message an check his/her checkmark manually.
Stefan
Ed Strohak wrote: |
I'm looking for config examples of a shift log book where operators have to check a box or select their name from a list to prove they have read the latest entries in the log, can anyone help.
Thanks for your time.
Ed..
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URL, posted by Neal Grafton on Tue Mar 15 09:26:40 2016
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Hi
Can I asign a URL to a Radio Button to bring up another program? |
Re: URL, posted by Stefan Ritt on Tue Mar 22 12:47:50 2016
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You can do this by adding manyallty some JavaScript to the page.
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Hi
Can I asign a URL to a Radio Button to bring up another program?
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Re: URL, posted by Neal Grafton on Wed Mar 23 16:01:46 2016
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OK thanks Stefan.
Thats another programming language I'll have to learn then. :-)
The Elog config I am just getting to grips with but Java and Scripts are a bit beyond me.
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
You can do this by adding manyallty some JavaScript to the page.
Neal Grafton wrote: |
Hi
Can I asign a URL to a Radio Button to bring up another program?
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Width of text field, posted by Edward Diehl on Tue Mar 22 18:28:03 2016
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I use a elog which has a text field to show log entries: https://classis01.roma1.infn.it/elog/calib/ In the "Summary" view there are only 3 lines of about 40 characters shown, so often the entry is cut off even though there is plenty of space in the text box for longer lines. To see the full entry you must click on the ID number. Is there any way to configure the Text box to show longer lines? Thank you.
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Re: Width of text field, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Wed Mar 23 11:40:52 2016
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Did you try the options
Summary lines = x
Summary line length = x
as documented in https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#flags ?
It works nicely with plain text entries; it has some difficulties with HTML, since it has to remove the formatting and that disturbs the line count.
Cheers Andreas
Edward Diehl wrote: |
I use a elog which has a text field to show log entries: https://classis01.roma1.infn.it/elog/calib/ In the "Summary" view there are only 3 lines of about 40 characters shown, so often the entry is cut off even though there is plenty of space in the text box for longer lines. To see the full entry you must click on the ID number. Is there any way to configure the Text box to show longer lines? Thank you.
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Installation: Failed Dependencies, posted by Phil Rubin on Fri Mar 11 17:29:47 2016
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Is there anything I can do about this?
kernel: 2.6.32-279.14.1.el6.x86_64
ldd (GNU libc) 2.12
/lib64/libc.so.6
/usr/lib64/libssl.so.10
rpm -i elog-latest.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libc.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libssl.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386 |
Re: Installation: Failed Dependencies, posted by Phil Rubin on Fri Mar 11 18:59:30 2016
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I attempted instead to build from the tar ball, and, except for a "fatal" git error, make built elogd, elog, and elconv. I put the first in /usr/local/sbin, and the latter two in /usr/local/bin, and then restarted elogd, but this didn't work:
Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
So, I backed these out and restored the previous executables, and access to the elog was restored, and the elogd.cfg accessed is the original one, but all logbooks are empty and requiring authentication. The logbook directories still contain all the old entries, so I'm not sure what has happened.
Thanks for your advice.
Phil
Phil Rubin wrote: |
Is there anything I can do about this?
kernel: 2.6.32-279.14.1.el6.x86_64
ldd (GNU libc) 2.12
/lib64/libc.so.6
/usr/lib64/libssl.so.10
rpm -i elog-latest.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libc.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libssl.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
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Re: Installation: Failed Dependencies, posted by Phil Rubin on Fri Mar 11 19:24:11 2016
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OK. I found the source of the logbook problem in an exchange from May 2015, so no need to answer this one.
But I would like to be able to upgrade to 3.x from 2.9, so any help with this will be much appreciated.
Phil
Phil Rubin wrote: |
I attempted instead to build from the tar ball, and, except for a "fatal" git error, make built elogd, elog, and elconv. I put the first in /usr/local/sbin, and the latter two in /usr/local/bin, and then restarted elogd, but this didn't work:
Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
So, I backed these out and restored the previous executables, and access to the elog was restored, and the elogd.cfg accessed is the original one, but all logbooks are empty and requiring authentication. The logbook directories still contain all the old entries, so I'm not sure what has happened.
Thanks for your advice.
Phil
Phil Rubin wrote: |
Is there anything I can do about this?
kernel: 2.6.32-279.14.1.el6.x86_64
ldd (GNU libc) 2.12
/lib64/libc.so.6
/usr/lib64/libssl.so.10
rpm -i elog-latest.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libc.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libssl.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
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Re: Installation: Failed Dependencies, posted by Darren Hollinrake on Sat Mar 19 15:24:29 2016
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I did the following on CentOS 6.7 (Should work for Fedora and RHEL as well):
yum install -y wget
wget http://midas.psi.ch/elog/download/RPMS/elog-latest.i386.rpm
yum install -y elog-latest.i386.rpm
This should install all the required dependencies.
Phil Rubin wrote: |
Is there anything I can do about this?
kernel: 2.6.32-279.14.1.el6.x86_64
ldd (GNU libc) 2.12
/lib64/libc.so.6
/usr/lib64/libssl.so.10
rpm -i elog-latest.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libc.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libssl.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
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upgrade problem, posted by Tim Schelfhout on Tue Mar 15 19:53:55 2016
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Hello there,
After several years of great ELOG usage I decided to upgrade our ELOG server. I am using it to keep
a logbook of my students.
ELOG runs as a windows service but since I cannot access or change windows services (only have access to the
ELOG directory) I upgraded by installing the executable to my laptop then copying the new ELOG version over the server installation.
Tried this first on my laptop going from V2.9.2-2475 to the last version 3.1.1 and this worked without a problem.
When I tried to reproduce this on the server all the data is there but ELOG displays it as if no theme was installed. (using the default
by the way) No colors, no formatting
... at first I thougt this was because the copy was not complete but a second try reproduced the same result???
Tried going back to the old version but then ALL data was gone (structure and all logbooks still there, but data in logbooks gone) ....
Used -v switch to debug and the logging displayed an MD5 hash mismatch, so the logbooks could not be opened. A restore fixed this ....
I guess upgrading means changing the logbook structure?
Anyway does anyone have any idea why the upgrade loses formatting ?? Tips are welcome |
Re: upgrade problem, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Wed Mar 16 08:39:55 2016
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Hi Tim,
starting with ELOG version 3 all entries are moved into sub-directories for each year.
If you move the files back from the sub-directories and restart elogd, then the entries should appear again in the logbook with ELOG 2.9.2.
I don't know how to solve your other problem. Maybe you should talk to someone locally who can administer your windows server?
Cheers, Andreas
Tim Schelfhout wrote: |
Hello there,
After several years of great ELOG usage I decided to upgrade our ELOG server. I am using it to keep
a logbook of my students.
ELOG runs as a windows service but since I cannot access or change windows services (only have access to the
ELOG directory) I upgraded by installing the executable to my laptop then copying the new ELOG version over the server installation.
Tried this first on my laptop going from V2.9.2-2475 to the last version 3.1.1 and this worked without a problem.
When I tried to reproduce this on the server all the data is there but ELOG displays it as if no theme was installed. (using the default
by the way) No colors, no formatting
... at first I thougt this was because the copy was not complete but a second try reproduced the same result???
Tried going back to the old version but then ALL data was gone (structure and all logbooks still there, but data in logbooks gone) ....
Used -v switch to debug and the logging displayed an MD5 hash mismatch, so the logbooks could not be opened. A restore fixed this ....
I guess upgrading means changing the logbook structure?
Anyway does anyone have any idea why the upgrade loses formatting ?? Tips are welcome
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Pre-populate filed based on selection, posted by Jimmy Bria on Mon Mar 14 16:00:02 2016 
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Hi,
Is it possible to pre-populate a field based on the selection of another field. I like to have the Equipment Description field populated when the use makes a selection on the EQ# field.
Thank you,
Jimmy
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Re: Pre-populate filed based on selection, posted by Stefan Ritt on Tue Mar 15 03:48:58 2016
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Use "conditional attributes" as described in the documentation: https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#conditional
Jimmy Bria wrote: |
Hi,
Is it possible to pre-populate a field based on the selection of another field. I like to have the Equipment Description field populated when the use makes a selection on the EQ# field.
Thank you,
Jimmy
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Installation: Failed Dependencies, posted by Phil Rubin on Fri Mar 11 17:19:02 2016
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Is there anything I can do about this?
kernel: 2.6.32-279.14.1.el6.x86_64
ldd (GNU libc) 2.12
/lib64/libc.so.6
/usr/lib64/libssl.so.10
rpm -i elog-latest.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libc.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386
libssl.so.6 is needed by elog-3.1.1-1.i386 |
elogd -m Error sending local entry: Error transmitting message, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 10 00:26:03 2016
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I'm running ELOG on a seperate Windows Servers.
When I try to synchronize the logbooks using "elogd -m", I get an "Error sending local entry: Error transmitting message"
If I click on the "Synchronize" link in the logbook, it can correctly send entry to remote ELOG.
Can anyone tell me why I get this error?
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Here is the command & output:
c:\Program Files (x86)\ELOG>elogd -m
Retrieving entries from "http://166.22.64.201/Equipment Log"...
All entries identical
Retrieving entries from "http://166.22.64.201/System Log"...
Error sending local entry: Error transmitting message |