When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6.

It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce:

- edit an existing entry

- click on "Save"

- view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit"

Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Devin

Thanks, Andreas.  I was aware of the "pending draft" menu, and I am aware that you can manually browse to an entry even if it doesn't appear in the list.  However, for our operations group it is a requirement that any saved entry appears in the list, even if it's in the process of being edited.  We won't be able to upgrade until this is possible.  

Previous releases didn't have this problem, so hopefully it won't be too difficult to address with a new configuration option.  Please let me know if there's something I should do to submit an official feature request / bug report.

Thanks again,

Devin

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Hi Devin, this is the intended bevaviour, there is nothing wrong with that. Only a submitted entry should be visible to the world. If you would have played a little bit longer, you would have found out yourself how you'll get access again to this so-called "draft" entry after closing the browser window: as soon as you attempt to create - as the same user - an new entry, you'll be asked if you want to continue editing your old draft entry instead. I've attached a screenshot of this "pending draft" menu, as it has been shown for this entry before I've submitted it. Kind Regards, Andreas PS: You gave a very clear "failure" description: what you did, what you expected to happen and what you've observed what happened instead. Well done: that deserves a swift answer! Devin Bougie wrote: When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6. It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce: - edit an existing entry - click on "Save" - view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit" Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   Many thanks, Devin

I have a question here. You say "previsous releases didn't have this problems". Well, they did not have the auto-save feature. You can turn this off if you like with "autosave = 0". This also removes the "Save" button so elog behaves exactly as before.

I decided NOT to show draft entries in the list, because these are entries currently under editing, and maybe the editor does not want others to see a half finished entry. Actually I had this feature initially and people complained about seing half finished messages in the list. Previously, when there was no "Save" button, new entries where not visible on the list because nothing was submitted at all, and I guess that was ok with you. So would reverting to the old functionality via "autosave = 0" make you happy? Of course you then loose the autosave functionality. So if people enter a long entry, and surf away from the page or the browser crashes, the entry is lost.

Devin Bougie wrote:

Thanks, Andreas.  I was aware of the "pending draft" menu, and I am aware that you can manually browse to an entry even if it doesn't appear in the list.  However, for our operations group it is a requirement that any saved entry appears in the list, even if it's in the process of being edited.  We won't be able to upgrade until this is possible.   Previous releases didn't have this problem, so hopefully it won't be too difficult to address with a new configuration option.  Please let me know if there's something I should do to submit an official feature request / bug report. Thanks again, Devin Andreas Luedeke wrote: Hi Devin, this is the intended bevaviour, there is nothing wrong with that. Only a submitted entry should be visible to the world. If you would have played a little bit longer, you would have found out yourself how you'll get access again to this so-called "draft" entry after closing the browser window: as soon as you attempt to create - as the same user - an new entry, you'll be asked if you want to continue editing your old draft entry instead. I've attached a screenshot of this "pending draft" menu, as it has been shown for this entry before I've submitted it. Kind Regards, Andreas PS: You gave a very clear "failure" description: what you did, what you expected to happen and what you've observed what happened instead. Well done: that deserves a swift answer! Devin Bougie wrote: When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6. It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce: - edit an existing entry - click on "Save" - view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit" Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   Many thanks, Devin

Thanks, Stefan!  Yes, the old behavior is an acceptable workaround.  Although you need to use "Save drafts = 0" for this instead of "autosave = 0".

Ideally, our machine studies group would like to have the ability to save / autosave an entry *and* have it remain in the list.  We'd be very grateful to see that as an option in a future release.

Thanks again,

Devin
 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I have a question here. You say "previsous releases didn't have this problems". Well, they did not have the auto-save feature. You can turn this off if you like with "autosave = 0". This also removes the "Save" button so elog behaves exactly as before. I decided NOT to show draft entries in the list, because these are entries currently under editing, and maybe the editor does not want others to see a half finished entry. Actually I had this feature initially and people complained about seing half finished messages in the list. Previously, when there was no "Save" button, new entries where not visible on the list because nothing was submitted at all, and I guess that was ok with you. So would reverting to the old functionality via "autosave = 0" make you happy? Of course you then loose the autosave functionality. So if people enter a long entry, and surf away from the page or the browser crashes, the entry is lost. Devin Bougie wrote: Thanks, Andreas.  I was aware of the "pending draft" menu, and I am aware that you can manually browse to an entry even if it doesn't appear in the list.  However, for our operations group it is a requirement that any saved entry appears in the list, even if it's in the process of being edited.  We won't be able to upgrade until this is possible.   Previous releases didn't have this problem, so hopefully it won't be too difficult to address with a new configuration option.  Please let me know if there's something I should do to submit an official feature request / bug report. Thanks again, Devin Andreas Luedeke wrote: Hi Devin, this is the intended bevaviour, there is nothing wrong with that. Only a submitted entry should be visible to the world. If you would have played a little bit longer, you would have found out yourself how you'll get access again to this so-called "draft" entry after closing the browser window: as soon as you attempt to create - as the same user - an new entry, you'll be asked if you want to continue editing your old draft entry instead. I've attached a screenshot of this "pending draft" menu, as it has been shown for this entry before I've submitted it. Kind Regards, Andreas PS: You gave a very clear "failure" description: what you did, what you expected to happen and what you've observed what happened instead. Well done: that deserves a swift answer! Devin Bougie wrote: When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6. It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce: - edit an existing entry - click on "Save" - view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit" Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   Many thanks, Devin

Have a look here: elog:68014

Thanks, Stefan.  I read that before asking my question, but didn't see a resolution in that thread.  I am already at 3.1.1, and I am testing on a clean installation.  Are you saying that the solution is in the development branch after the release of 3.1.1?

Thanks again,

Devin

No. What the thread says is first try this forum, see if you can drag and drop here. If not, you have a problem on your browser. If yes, you have somewhere some old JavaScript file around. Might be in the cache of your browser.

Yeah, I had tried that and it did work in your demo forum.  It just didn't work in mine with authentication = webserver, even with a clean browser profile.  

However, after playing with the config and a few restarts, everything now seems to be working properly.  Really not sure what changed, but thanks for helping.

Devin

I'm finally able to reproduce this, and my initial description was incorrect.  If we have "restrict edit = 1", only an "Admin user" can use the "Dop attachments here..." or the "Image" button in the CKEditor.  The old "Choose File," "Upload" buttons, however, works just fine for anyone.

If we have "restrict edit = 0", anyone can upload an attachment using all three interfaces.

This is very reproducible by toggling restrict edit in the global section or for an individual logbook.

Devin

Hi again!

I've another need that you probably already thought of :)

I'd like to be able to efficiently monitor a logbook for changes (new or edited posts) somehow. The most reasonable way I've found so far is to periodically poll a search that looks for posts after the time of the last poll. But that might note be very efficient, especially if the polling period gets short (or number of clients grows).

Is there some other feature that could be used for this? I was thinking maybe the ETag or Last-Modified HTTP header field could be used to show changes to a logbook by just reading the headers, but it would also require HEAD request support which does not seem to be there.

Cheers,

Johan

Use automatic email notifications or RSS feeds. Read the manual for that.

Stefan

I recommend monitoring directly on the server. Here is an example of a very simply Python script (https://github.com/tamasgal/elog-slack) which monitors the files very efficiently and immediately pushes notifications to Slack (slack.com). Just look at the code, it's pretty straight forward and very easy to adapt it to other (web) services.

Btw. here is an ELOG entry of it https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/68224

Yeah, I suppose something like that would be both faster and more efficient than polling ELOG itself. Fortunately the ELOG disk format looks easily parsed.

Thanks for the pointer!

I just noticed that there are multiple messages per file, so I have to adapt the parser. I'll update this thread when I'm done!

You guys know that there is the possibility to execute an arbitrary script on each submission of a new messge? Just use "Execute new = <script>". In the script you have access to all parameters of the message. That's maybe simple than to watch the file set.

Where is this feature documented?

In the documentation of course :-)

I'm probably too tired or I don't know, but of course I looked at the user's guide and the admin's guide but did not found anything about this ;-) Is there another documention which I missed somehow?

You look here: http://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html and scroll down to "Execute New". I wonder how you ever could run elog without looking at that page.

OK thanks I'll check that out. I did not configure ELOG by myself, I only use it and wrote the Slack plugin ;-)

Aha, that's interesting too! I'll have to look more carefully through the documentation... :)

Yeah, I found the RSS feed feature, but I could not get ETags/Last-Modified header fields which meant that I'd have to read and parse the entire feed every time. Maybe I made a mistake and they do work, but if not, I think it would make sense to implement as it should save work for both the server and the client.

Dear all,

I just wanted to share a small script which I wrote to integrate our ELOG in Slack. This allows us to be notified immediately if there is a new logbook entry directly within the appropriate Slack channels. We're using ELOG V2.9.2-245 but if the log-file format has "Subject, Author, Type" in the header, it should work with any other version. I'm using Pyinotify for the file watch which relies on a Linux Kernel feature (merged in kernel 2.6.13) called inotify, so the script only works on Linux.

Here is the code: https://github.com/tamasgal/elog-slack

Cheers and thanks for ELOG!

Tom

Hi all,

I have a use case for ELOG where I need to be able to "prefill" some attributes in the "cmd=new" form, based on the URL.

To illustrate, imagine a link that takes the user directly to the form for creating a new post, with the "Subsystem" attribute already filled out to "Vacuum".

Is this possible already? I've tried naively using URL parameters (e.g. "&Subsystem=Vacuum") but that does not work. If it's not implemented, I think it would be a useful feature to have (and quite important for my particular use case). I could create a new post first using the "elog" tool, with the desired attributes set, but it makes more sense to defer the actual creation of the post to the user, i.e. he/she might change their mind before pressing "submit".

Thanks,

Johan Forsberg, MAX IV Laboratory, Sweden

Put a "p" in front of the attribute, like "&pSubsystem=Vacuum". This is kind of an undocumented feature just for the experts ;-)

Wow, than you both for the quick response! I agree it's quite a hidden gem, but the most important thing is that it works, thanks!

Whatever you choose as a default encoding you'll be stuck with. If you remove the "Required Attributes" it works again.

The workaround is very simple: do not use any attributes that do start with a digit :-)

Cheers, Andreas

Hi ELOG Community,

Please help me to configure my smtp server in Windows using gmail server

This is what in my config:

SMTP host = smtp.gmail.com

SMTP username = raymund.dawang@engagis.com (company email subscribing in gmail)
SMTP Password = xxxxxxx
 

And I was prompted by this error in elog: Error sending Email via <i>"smtp.gmail.com"</i>: 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. ir5sm11631778pbc.13 - gsmtp

Apprecite you help. Thanks.

Elog does not directly support TLS encryption. See here for a wrokaround: elog:68039

Thanks Stefan,

I checked in my ELOG folder and can't find the stunnel.cfg. Is that only available in Linux? Can you please recommend a third party SMTP server for me use to successfully enable mail notif via Windows OS. Thanks much

Cheers,

Raymund

I believe there is a stunnel port for Windows, but that's more for the experienced users. I guess there is no simple solution.

Stefan

Hi Stefan,

I remeber when I used elog email notif feature in my previous workplace which is running in windows, I just put IP address on SMTP host = X.X.X.X at the config file and it run without any problem. I'm thinking they are using SMTP server. Can you please recommend any SMTP server and SMTP relayer site that I can use to be able to successfully send my email notification. I tried SendGrid SMTP cloud server but i have hard time and still failing. you might recommend SMTP server that you are using now in your elog site. Thank you so much.

Hi,

I'm having an issue with Elog 3.1.1 on windows 10 not displaying all log entries (after a certain date) in a logbook directory.

The logbook is saved in a Dropbox folder and the entries were created on a windows 8.1 PC with 3.1.1 also.

I created an entry in windows 10, this created a new log file (new day) with a duplicate ID, deleted the log file and then the windows 10 pc displayed all entries.

Is there any way to ensure Elogd picks up all log files ?

Thanks & Regards,

Mike

Besides the commen Andrea made I would like to add that you can convince elog to show all files if you simply restart it, then it will re-scan all files. But as Andreas said, if two elogd instances write to the same directory, you will get a mess with double IDs of entries.

Stefan

Thanks very much for your comments. I will take a look at the mirror server functionality.

I have only been running one elogd at a time, restarting elogd (on Windows 10) doesn't seem to pick up the changes made on Windows 8.1 PC (stopped elogd after changes made and log file updated)

Mike

Ah, I see another problem. The pre 3.1 version had all logbook files in one directory, and the 3.1 puts the files in one subdirectoy per year. On transition from 3.0 to 3.1, an automatic conversion is made, but only once. If you later add files into the root logbook directory, they will not be seen. So you have to move them manually into the right subdirectory.

Hi, I have noticed that if an entry is not submitted it is saved in a sub-folder (name is current ID number) eg http://localhost:8090/mike/23, while draft it doesn't appear in list page but you can browse directly to it.

When you update an entry on one server instance, if you then browse to the entry ID on the 2nd server instance it is draft. If you edit then submit the entry then appears in list page on 2nd server instance.

Thanks again.

Drafts are not shown in the list page, but you can browse directly to them, if you know their idea. They are also shown if you hit "new". Then a box comes up "You have unfished drafts, do you want to edit them?". This is the new draft feature introduced recently and a feature of elog.

But I guess you have a more general problem. You run two elogd severs, and you transfer information between the two servers via Dropbox. Elog is not made for that. Elog is a web server, so you don't have to transfer data via a could service (except maybe for backup). You can access your one and only elog instance from everywhere. Everything else will give you trouble.

Understood, Thanks very much for your help.