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  65900   Thu Jun 5 01:36:07 2008 Reply Dennis Seitzdseitz@cosmology.berkeley.eduRequestAll Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox

 

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

 

Dennis Seitz wrote:

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

 

Dennis Seitz wrote:

 I would like to be notified by email of some logbook entries regardless of whether the user has chosen to suppress email or not.

This way I will always be aware of new entries, and users will still have the option of notifying a larger group of other users, or not.

As far as I can tell, presently the Suppress Email checkbox overrides Email All.

 

 

If I make "Email all" override the suppress email checkbox, some uses would complain "I check the supporess box, but my admin still gets email, what am I doing wrong here?". So while this works for you, it will not be desired for everybody. I would have to add another parameter just for this request. Couldn't you instead use the RSS feed functionality? This way you well see all entries, independent of the email notification. You can use special RSS feed readers (your browser and email client probably support this already).

 

Hmm, I see your point, but wouldn't using the RSS feed have the same effect? Or are you saying the users just wouldn't know about it, so they wouldn't complain? 

I haven't explored the RSS feed options yet. I'll study them.

 

The RSS feed you have to "pull" actively with a client (which of course can be periodically in an automatic way). So no pull, no notification, happy users

 

Hmm. Is there some way to set up a private RSS feed for me only?

If not, I would humbly ask that you add an option. I don't want to generate unnecessary email to users, but I need to always be notified for some logbooks. I'm responsible for some hardware on our project and I want to know any time someone reports a problem. The best solution is to still let users decide whether they want to subscribe to logbooks, and whether entry notification should be suppressed or not, but also have an admin override privilege. There could be a disclaimer "admin is automatically notified of all entries" at the top of the edit page.

If this can be done with a private RSS feed to me only, then that's fine. I still don't use or understand RSS feeds very well, sorry. I'd rather all users did not have the option to be alerted to every new entry, when email suppression is enabled. That would be contradictory, I think.

 Thanks for listening!

 

  65902   Thu Jun 5 02:06:31 2008 Idea Dennis Seitzdenseitz@comcast.netRequest  thumbnails in list and entry views?

It would be very cool to be able to select Full from the view menu and then scroll rapidly through all entries looking for that high res photo of a SQUID chip I took two months ago. Presently the photos are all full size so the Full view is slow to load and it takes a lot of scrolling to navigate. Can you implement thumbnails in Full view, and also in the single entry view? Clicking on the thumbnail should, of course, open the full size image.

For now, I'm just using the wysiwyg html entry format and dropping images into the entry, then right-clicking to set a small image size. Clicking on the image gives me a new window with the full size image, which works great.

I hope you don't mind the barrage of suggestions, and thanks again.

  65903   Thu Jun 5 08:17:59 2008 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chRequestAll Re: Make Email All = <list> override Suppress Email checkbox

Dennis Seitz wrote:

Hmm. Is there some way to set up a private RSS feed for me only?

If not, I would humbly ask that you add an option. I don't want to generate unnecessary email to users, but I need to always be notified for some logbooks. I'm responsible for some hardware on our project and I want to know any time someone reports a problem. The best solution is to still let users decide whether they want to subscribe to logbooks, and whether entry notification should be suppressed or not, but also have an admin override privilege. There could be a disclaimer "admin is automatically notified of all entries" at the top of the edit page.

If this can be done with a private RSS feed to me only, then that's fine. I still don't use or understand RSS feeds very well, sorry. I'd rather all users did not have the option to be alerted to every new entry, when email suppression is enabled. That would be contradictory, I think.

 Thanks for listening!

The RSS feed is private by default. You install a client (like Sharp Reader under Windows). It stays in the icon tray and periodically checks for new ELOG entries. If there is one, it pops up a window similar to your email client. You click on it, and it shows all entries like this:

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 All you have to do is to enter the URL of the ELOG logook. Just add "elog.rdf" to the URL of the logbook as you would access it from your browser.

Here is the pop-up I got from writing just this entry:

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  65904   Thu Jun 5 08:25:11 2008 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chRequest  Re: thumbnails in list and entry views?

Dennis Seitz wrote:

It would be very cool to be able to select Full from the view menu and then scroll rapidly through all entries looking for that high res photo of a SQUID chip I took two months ago. Presently the photos are all full size so the Full view is slow to load and it takes a lot of scrolling to navigate. Can you implement thumbnails in Full view, and also in the single entry view? Clicking on the thumbnail should, of course, open the full size image.

For now, I'm just using the wysiwyg html entry format and dropping images into the entry, then right-clicking to set a small image size. Clicking on the image gives me a new window with the full size image, which works great.

I hope you don't mind the barrage of suggestions, and thanks again.

Thumbnail display in "full view" is implemented already. Let's take this entry: I insert a picture and scale it down via the "smaller" button:

Capture.png

Now if you display this forum in full view, the image is still shown as a thumbnail, which you are able to click in order to get the full resolution display. I don't know what is different in your case, maybe you are using an oder version of ELOG?

  65961   Thu Sep 4 20:49:59 2008 Idea Alan Stonealstone@fnal.govRequestLinuxV2.7.1-200Search Find Selected or List of Logbooks instead of all Logbooks.

I am using the CMS ELog remotely as a monitoring tool.  Information is compartementalized into dozens of containers.  I can create a find query URL, say last day, which then reloads every X minutes in Firefox.  When new ELog entries are made, then appear in the refresh and catch my attention.  But, my interests are somewhere between a single logbook and all logbooks.  If I choose all CMS logbooks for example for one day, I usually end up with > 200 entries. 

In short, I would like the ability to:

1) Select from the list of available logbooks when doing a search

2) Have more canned choices from smaller time frames, such as 1 hour or at least one shift (8 hours).

I do not see how to do this in the current elogd.cfg syntax instructions.

Thanks, Alan

  65962   Fri Sep 5 10:21:45 2008 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chRequestLinuxV2.7.1-200Re: Search Find Selected or List of Logbooks instead of all Logbooks.

Alan Stone wrote:

I am using the CMS ELog remotely as a monitoring tool.  Information is compartementalized into dozens of containers.  I can create a find query URL, say last day, which then reloads every X minutes in Firefox.  When new ELog entries are made, then appear in the refresh and catch my attention.  But, my interests are somewhere between a single logbook and all logbooks.  If I choose all CMS logbooks for example for one day, I usually end up with > 200 entries. 

In short, I would like the ability to:

1) Select from the list of available logbooks when doing a search

2) Have more canned choices from smaller time frames, such as 1 hour or at least one shift (8 hours).

I do not see how to do this in the current elogd.cfg syntax instructions.

Thanks, Alan

 First of all have you considered using the built in RSS feed? With an RSS reader new entries are shown in a local notification box similar to new email. Some people like it.

1) This is not directly possible, but there is a trick: Define a URL to each logbook and put it into the Bookmarks Toolbar of Firefox. If you have many logbooks, this will however clutter up your toolbar. Then I recommend to make a subfolder in the toolbar and put them into it. Now firefox has the neat feature that if you click with the right mouse button on the folder, it offers you "Open All in Tabs". If you select this, you get a tab for each logbook in fireforx, and you can browse through each logbook individually.

2) This function was there long time ago (since I needed it myself) but somehow vanished. I added it back in revision 2126. You can now craft an URL like

https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/past-8

to show the last 8 hours.

  66039   Mon Nov 10 19:10:44 2008 Reply Dennis Seitzdenseitz@comcast.netRequest  Re: thumbnails in list and entry views?

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

 

Dennis Seitz wrote:

It would be very cool to be able to select Full from the view menu and then scroll rapidly through all entries looking for that high res photo of a SQUID chip I took two months ago. Presently the photos are all full size so the Full view is slow to load and it takes a lot of scrolling to navigate. Can you implement thumbnails in Full view, and also in the single entry view? Clicking on the thumbnail should, of course, open the full size image.

For now, I'm just using the wysiwyg html entry format and dropping images into the entry, then right-clicking to set a small image size. Clicking on the image gives me a new window with the full size image, which works great.

I hope you don't mind the barrage of suggestions, and thanks again.

 

Thumbnail display in "full view" is implemented already. Let's take this entry: I insert a picture and scale it down via the "smaller" button:

Capture.png

Now if you display this forum in full view, the image is still shown as a thumbnail, which you are able to click in order to get the full resolution display. I don't know what is different in your case, maybe you are using an oder version of ELOG?

 

 Sorry for the delayed reply.

Ideally I'd like a config setting so that by default all graphics are presented at a fixed thumbnail size, so the users don't have to edit the image size every time they add one. Clicking on the thumbnail would open the image full size.

This would by default streamline loading and scanning through pages with many large images, whether in Full view of an entire logbook, or when viewing individual entries.

 

  66044   Thu Nov 13 13:25:25 2008 Idea Steve WilliamsonStephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.ukRequestLinux2.7.5Sorting Museremail

Hi

I've just upgraded to 2.7.5 mainly because I wanted to have Museremail sorted.  We use this to list contacts on an RFC form and it's much easier to find the ones you want when they are in a predictable sequence.  As an extension to this it would be great if they could be sorted by the last part of their real name - typical user, give him a sweetie and he wants jam on it!

cheers

Steve

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