We recently tried upgrading the ND280 elog instance to elog 3.1.0. [1] We seem to have some problems with this 'auto-save' functionality.  Specifically, it doesn't seem to play nice with the fact that we prefer to disable user's ability to edit old messages.  So we have (up to now), had the following set of commands specified in elogd.ccfg

Menu commands = List, New, Reply, Delete, Duplicate, Copy to, Move to, Find, Help

The problem is that we now get auto-saved messages, but no ability for the user to actually go back and finish the draft message.  You can see an example of this state in this test elog

http://neut17.triumf.ca:8080/demo/

Clicking on the draft message you can see that it can't be editted.  If you try to click 'new' then edit the draft, you get the message 'Error: Command "Edit" not allowed'.  So we had zombie draft messages, until we added the edit command back; but that defeats our preference that users not mess up old messages.

In general this auto-saving seems like a useful feature.  So the ideal solution for me would be to have some mode where users could edit/finish draft messages, but where we could still disable users from editting completed/finished messages.  Ie, where we can omit 'Edit' from the menu command, but still get auto-save.

A less ideal, but perhaps simpler solution would be that if an elog has omitted 'Edit' from the menu commands, then this auto-save/save functionality is disabled so that we don't get uneditable draft messages.

[1] https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67855

We recently tried upgrading the ND280 elog instance to elog 3.1.0. [1] We seem to have some problems with this 'auto-save' functionality.  Specifically, it doesn't seem to play nice with the fact that we prefer to disable user's ability to edit old messages.  So we have (up to now), had the following set of commands specified in elogd.ccfg

Menu commands = List, New, Reply, Delete, Duplicate, Copy to, Move to, Find, Help

The problem is that we now get auto-saved messages, but no ability for the user to actually go back and finish the draft message.  You can see an example of this state in this test elog

http://neut17.triumf.ca:8080/demo/

Clicking on the draft message you can see that it can't be editted.  If you try to click 'new' then edit the draft, you get the message 'Error: Command "Edit" not allowed'.  So we had zombie draft messages, until we added the edit command back; but that defeats our preference that users not mess up old messages.

In general this auto-saving seems like a useful feature.  So the ideal solution for me would be to have some mode where users could edit/finish draft messages, but where we could still disable users from editting completed/finished messages.  Ie, where we can omit 'Edit' from the menu command, but still get auto-save.

A less ideal, but perhaps simpler solution would be that if an elog has omitted 'Edit' from the menu commands, then this auto-save/save functionality is disabled so that we don't get uneditable draft messages.

[1] https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67855

By the way Stefan: is there a way to disable the whole draft message feature?

Arghhhh! Guess how many people asked me for the autosave feature! I worked really hard on it (including an airplane flight to Japan!), not the next guy comes "can we disable that feature?". 

I agree that this feature has many side effects, and I have to adress one by one, but in the end the community will benefit. Think of starting a draft at one computer, and finishing at another one. Lazarus won't help you there.

Nevertheless , I added a "Save drafts" which you can set to zero. But I would rather prefer if people tell me their problems, and I fix them, instead of siletnly just disabling this feature and keeping the bugs there unresolved.

Hey,

I want to submit an entry to elog remotley using the "elog" command. For example:

elog -h elog-server-adress -l EO -a Fill=111

But this does not generate a new entry. Instead the terminal jumps to an empty new line and the command does not respond to any further inputs anymore (CTRL+C to get out). I have to add a message:

elog -h elog-server-adress -l EO -a Fill=111 "test"

also using an empty string does not work:

elog -h elog-server-adress -l EO -a Fill=111 ""

I could add a whitespace as a work-around, but I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature.

To put this in some context: I want to create entries for certain measurements automatically, where all relevant parameters are already attribute fields. In the usual case the actual message will be empty but might be used if the operator wants to add a note after the meausrement has been done.

Hey,

I want to submit an entry to elog remotley using the "elog" command. For example:

elog -h elog-server-adress -l EO -a Fill=111

But this does not generate a new entry. Instead the terminal jumps to an empty new line and the command does not respond to any further inputs anymore (CTRL+C to get out). I have to add a message:

elog -h elog-server-adress -l EO -a Fill=111 "test"

also using an empty string does not work:

elog -h elog-server-adress -l EO -a Fill=111 ""

I could add a whitespace as a work-around, but I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature.

To put this in some context: I want to create entries for certain measurements automatically, where all relevant parameters are already attribute fields. In the usual case the actual message will be empty but might be used if the operator wants to add a note after the meausrement has been done.