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  68130   Mon Sep 28 06:45:03 2015 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chRequestAll2.9.0(elogd)Re: elog client overwriting attached files when editing existing log

The "elog" command has no "append" feature. You can either create a new entry, or you can overwrite an old entry. Therefore this is not a bug but the intended bahaviour.

I admit that the documentation is misleading, since overwriting an existing entry is called "editing":

[-e <id>]                Edit existing message

I interprete your posts that you would like to have two new features for the "elog" command:

  • to append text to the body of an existing entry
  • to add additional attachments to an existing entry

Without a specific application in mind I would like to add a request (for consistency):

  • to modify a specific attribute of an existing entry.

Cheers, Andreas

Edmund Hertle wrote:

Hey,

I think this is a "problem" of the elog client, since it simply replaces the data. In most cases this is what you want, but since I wanted to have the option to append to the acutal message I built a function to first read-back the entry and add to the message instead of replacing it.

I just played around a bit and found that the attachments will be even disconnected, if you do not specify the -f parameter but just edit a different part of this entry.

A work-around for this is tricky. I tried to write to the "Attachment" attribute directly (-a "Attachment=Filename'), since then you coud read back the data first and manually add the filenames again. But this does not work.

Since the attachments are not actually removed, the only option I see is to modify the logbook file entry on the server by manually re-adding the filenames to the "Attachment: " line.

Joseph McKenna wrote:

Using the elog client to upload atachments, I can successfully send attachments to an existing elog, however the existing attachments are lost.

I have tested using the elog client version 3.1.1 and elog client version 2.9.2 sending to elogd 2.9.0

elog -h localhost -p 8080 -l test -f  file1.png -f file2.png -e 249 -v -x

This works great, the text contained in the elog post is retained, however all attachments are lost and replaced with those sent by this command.

Can anyone provide some tips? I am not sure if its a problem with the client or server.

Thank you in advance!

Joseph


            

 

 

  68133   Tue Sep 29 08:50:30 2015 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chBug reportAll3.1.1Re: Creating ELog Links not working properly in HTML Editor
Hi Stefan,
yes, I know that a plain text "elog:1" works in the HTML editor, too.
But if you put "elog:1" in the URL field of the link dialog, then ELOG screws up: you get the text
and the link points to link type "URL", protocol "<other>", URL "1".
Or more precisely, the HTML source looks like the following:
   <a href="1">elog.1</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="1">elog.1</a>
(I've replaced ":" by "." here in the source, to avoid another iteration of links by ELOG).
That is not what I would have expected:
either it should have been remained unchanged, or it should point to the right URL of the entry elog:1 (the latter case preferred :-).
 
Cheers, Andreas
 
Stefan Ritt wrote:

Right, spaces won't work. But others work. Andreas, if you just put elog:1 without any link etc. just as plain text, it will be converted automatically into a link.

A workaround is to explicitly specify a link to an elog entry. Press the link button from the editor toolbar, enter a name and copy the full URL from the browser address bar, like here: https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/68129. If you switch to "Source" (Top left editor toolbar, you can changed the link name manually, like here.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

I can confirm this bug.

But I don't think this has to work as you've described it, when using the HTML editor: if you use HTML, you can use the link feature of the editor.
But that link feature does currently not work at all with internal elog references, not even a simple elog:1">elog:1 (as you can see here). I suppose there is some more work to do for Stefan on that ;-)
 
Cheers, Andreas
Edmund Hertle wrote:

Hey,

the syntax for creating links to other elog entries has a small issue in the HTML editor. The link will not be created properly if there are whitespaces in the name of the logbook. Using ELCode (or in a simple attribute field) the whitespaces can be replaced by "+", but this does not work in the HTML editor. The work-around would be to use ELCode mark-up instead of HTML.

Example 1 (this should work): elog:Contributions/47

Example 2 (this will not work): elog:Config+Examples/11

Example 3 (will also not work): elog:Config%20Examples/11

 

 

 

  68135   Wed Sep 30 09:28:39 2015 Idea Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionWindows2.7.3Re: Syntax for conditional list display
Hi Terry,
if you really want to do it, you can find a way to make it work. But it is not straight forward and not what ELOG is made for. Here some ideas how it could work:
  • ELOG allows you to have different commands for different users. You could allow "New" and "Edit" for normal users, but "Reply" only for administrators.
  • You can use "Subst on reply <attribute> = <string>" to set a specifc fields only on reply. 
    • You would hide "status" & "assignee" for new entries or edit (Show Attributes Edit = <list>), and show a "set status" field instead.
    • The line "Subst on reply status = $set status" would take care, that only an administrator can set "status" with a reply to the original entry (+ a "set assignee" field, etc.). While normal users could set "set status", it would not change the "status" field. You could provide a comment or tooltip to explain that.
    • The list view or single entry view should not show the "set status", but only the "status" attribute (List display = <list>, Show Attributes = <list>).
  • Use "Propagate attribute = status, assignee" to take care, that the original entry gets their fields set accordingly.

This is how you could do what you want. But bugzilla can do a lot more if you are looking for a bug tracking software.

Cheers, Andreas

Terry L wrote:

Hi Eddy,

Thank you for your response.  I had a feeling that was the case, but I had high hopes! :)  The reason I would like this feature is because I am trying to use ELOG as a software anomaly tracking log, where any user can create an ELOG and fill out "category", "computer" etc, but only administrators can fill out the "status" & "assignee".  If I am lucky, this will be an added feature in a future revision.

Thanks again,

-Terry

Edmund Hertle wrote:

Hey Terry,

I don't think this is possible, since in general you cannot define config settings in a way that it would only affect specific users. For example, you also cannot have different themes for different users (as stated here: https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/68112 )

Cheers

eddy

Terry L wrote:

Good Morning,

I would like to limit the ability to edit certain attributes in an ELOG logbook, depending on the user who is logged in.  I.e. if "guest" or a standard "login user" is logged in, I only want to allow the user to edit "attribute1" & "attribute2" of say, 5 attributes.  However, if an Admin user or specific user, say "Terry" or "Bob" is logged in, I want to allow ALL 5 attributes to be editable.  To expand on this, I may want to even limit the visibility of the attributes as well.

I've read though "Condition Attributes" section of the help page, but it is not clear to me how/if I can do this?  Is that section even relevant to what I want to accomplish?

Can anyone provide some guidance?

Thank you for your time & help!

Sincerely,

Terry

 

 

 

  68137   Thu Oct 1 12:01:11 2015 Warning Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionWindows2.7.3Re: Syntax for conditional list display

Oups: there is a flaw in this approach! You can only get different commands for Anonymous and Login Users. You cannot select different command for Admin users: they will just have the "Config" command automatically.

You could allow anonymous users to make new entries and restrict login to administrators. But that is certainly not what you want, so forget my suggestion altogether.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:
Hi Terry,
if you really want to do it, you can find a way to make it work. But it is not straight forward and not what ELOG is made for. Here some ideas how it could work:
  • ELOG allows you to have different commands for different users. You could allow "New" and "Edit" for normal users, but "Reply" only for administrators.
  • You can use "Subst on reply <attribute> = <string>" to set a specifc fields only on reply. 
    • You would hide "status" & "assignee" for new entries or edit (Show Attributes Edit = <list>), and show a "set status" field instead.
    • The line "Subst on reply status = $set status" would take care, that only an administrator can set "status" with a reply to the original entry (+ a "set assignee" field, etc.). While normal users could set "set status", it would not change the "status" field. You could provide a comment or tooltip to explain that.
    • The list view or single entry view should not show the "set status", but only the "status" attribute (List display = <list>, Show Attributes = <list>).
  • Use "Propagate attribute = status, assignee" to take care, that the original entry gets their fields set accordingly.

This is how you could do what you want. But bugzilla can do a lot more if you are looking for a bug tracking software.

Cheers, Andreas

Terry L wrote:

Hi Eddy,

Thank you for your response.  I had a feeling that was the case, but I had high hopes! :)  The reason I would like this feature is because I am trying to use ELOG as a software anomaly tracking log, where any user can create an ELOG and fill out "category", "computer" etc, but only administrators can fill out the "status" & "assignee".  If I am lucky, this will be an added feature in a future revision.

Thanks again,

-Terry

Edmund Hertle wrote:

Hey Terry,

I don't think this is possible, since in general you cannot define config settings in a way that it would only affect specific users. For example, you also cannot have different themes for different users (as stated here: https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/68112 )

Cheers

eddy

Terry L wrote:

Good Morning,

I would like to limit the ability to edit certain attributes in an ELOG logbook, depending on the user who is logged in.  I.e. if "guest" or a standard "login user" is logged in, I only want to allow the user to edit "attribute1" & "attribute2" of say, 5 attributes.  However, if an Admin user or specific user, say "Terry" or "Bob" is logged in, I want to allow ALL 5 attributes to be editable.  To expand on this, I may want to even limit the visibility of the attributes as well.

I've read though "Condition Attributes" section of the help page, but it is not clear to me how/if I can do this?  Is that section even relevant to what I want to accomplish?

Can anyone provide some guidance?

Thank you for your time & help!

Sincerely,

Terry

 

 

 

 

  68141   Thu Oct 8 11:27:55 2015 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionWindowsV3Re: How can I host elog in a web server

I am honestly not sure if I understand the question. You can run ELOG behind an Apache Webserver. Look for example at https://midas.psi.ch/elog/adminguide.html#secure

Dawang wrote:

How can I host elog in a web server. I need sample config file on [global] segment to show config on how it can be host. Please need your help. Thanks

 

  68164   Tue Oct 27 11:23:43 2015 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionWindowslatestRe: Please advise on how to set up selective email notification on logbooks
Hi Julian,
there is a whole chapter in the documentation about that: https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#email
If I have to send email, e.g. for Controls issues entered in the operation logbook, I do send the email to a specific mailman mailing list for that group.
It is cumbersome to manage email groups in the logbook configuration - in particular if the same lists exists in different logbooks. I only refer to the mailing list then in ELOG, and the groups can manage their lists themself.
I do maintain about 30 logbooks and there are about 10 groups at my institutes that desire email notifications for ELOG entries related to the systems they manage.
Cheers
Andreas
Julian Brower wrote:

Please advise on how to set up selective email notification on logbooks; We want to send an email to specific people when an event that involves them is entered? 

At the moment, we currently get an email entry for every new logbook entry. Thanks

 

 

  68165   Tue Oct 27 12:20:16 2015 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionLinux3.1.1Re: running more then one shell command when new entries is submitted
As far as I know ELOG is recognising a configuration line as a comment only when it starts with a ';'.
I can assure you that ELOG does not treat the rest of the line as a comment when you use a ';' within a $shell() command: I do it a lot and it works fine. Here's a simple, generic example using the bash:

Preset Author = $shell(if [ $short_name = "Anonym" ] ;then echo $Author;else echo \"$long_name, $Author\";fi)
It adds $long_name to the Author field for non-anonymous entries.

Cheers Andreas

kenzo Abrahams wrote:

If i put the ';' into Execute the rest of the command becomes a comment thats why i was trying to use '&&' instead. If I encapulate the whole command in "" or '' then both commands are executed but the files im trying to write to gets created but no data is piped into it. When I use Execute with one command and pipe its output to a file everything works fine though.

Stefan Ritt wrote:

The command is passed to your shell, and some shells except more than one command. Most Linux shells accept commands separated by ';', which you can try yourself by entering for example: ls *.c; ls*.h

kenzo Abrahams wrote:

Hi

Im just curious is it possible to run more then one command using Execute new = <command> or will i have to run a script to run muliple commands.

I tried using '&&' to seperate more then one command but it seems that the first one only gets executed and the rest are just ignored.

Regards

Kenzo

 

 

 

  68168   Wed Oct 28 08:51:17 2015 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chQuestionLinux3.1.1Re: dynamic "preset text" option without remplace text if it has changed

I don't think that this is possible.

And it is not clear to me, how you would like it to work: I often use HTML tables in preset text, where the user should fill out columns (e.g. for checklists). I wouldn't want the tables just to append when switching to another checklist. You could rather add a comment to the Type field, explaining that the text field will be overwritten when you change the type.

The Firefox addon Lazarus does store whatever you've typed in an HTML form: at least you could then recover what you've typed.

Cheers, Andreas

Dani wrote:

Dear all,

Is it possible to have a dynamic "preset text" option without remplace text if it has changed?

I would like to switch the template file depending on the attribute value (Type). 

If user already started editing the text body, on change (Type) he could lose this data. 

I'm using this example code :
Attributes = Type, Subject
Options Type = One{1}, Two{2}, Three{3}
Show text = 0

{1} Preset text = text1
{2} Preset text = text2
{3} Preset text = text3
{1,2,3} Show text = 1


I the attribute type change the user lost the data, because the text has been replaced.

Any idea about how to solve it?

Thanks!
Cheers

 

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