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  68242   Thu Jan 21 16:00:30 2016 Reply Devin Bougiedevin.bougie@cornell.eduBug reportLinux3.1.1Re: entry does not appear in list while it is being edited

Thanks, Andreas.  I was aware of the "pending draft" menu, and I am aware that you can manually browse to an entry even if it doesn't appear in the list.  However, for our operations group it is a requirement that any saved entry appears in the list, even if it's in the process of being edited.  We won't be able to upgrade until this is possible.  

Previous releases didn't have this problem, so hopefully it won't be too difficult to address with a new configuration option.  Please let me know if there's something I should do to submit an official feature request / bug report.

Thanks again,

Devin

Andreas Luedeke wrote:
Hi Devin,
this is the intended bevaviour, there is nothing wrong with that.
Only a submitted entry should be visible to the world.
If you would have played a little bit longer, you would have found out yourself how you'll get access again to this so-called "draft" entry after closing the browser window:
as soon as you attempt to create - as the same user - an new entry, you'll be asked if you want to continue editing your old draft entry instead.
I've attached a screenshot of this "pending draft" menu, as it has been shown for this entry before I've submitted it.
Kind Regards, Andreas
PS: You gave a very clear "failure" description: what you did, what you expected to happen and what you've observed what happened instead. Well done: that deserves a swift answer! smiley
Devin Bougie wrote:

When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6.

It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce:

- edit an existing entry

- click on "Save"

- view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit"

Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Many thanks,

Devin

 

 

  68243   Fri Jan 22 10:12:33 2016 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chBug reportLinux3.1.1Re: entry does not appear in list while it is being edited

I have a question here. You say "previsous releases didn't have this problems". Well, they did not have the auto-save feature. You can turn this off if you like with "autosave = 0". This also removes the "Save" button so elog behaves exactly as before.

I decided NOT to show draft entries in the list, because these are entries currently under editing, and maybe the editor does not want others to see a half finished entry. Actually I had this feature initially and people complained about seing half finished messages in the list. Previously, when there was no "Save" button, new entries where not visible on the list because nothing was submitted at all, and I guess that was ok with you. So would reverting to the old functionality via "autosave = 0" make you happy? Of course you then loose the autosave functionality. So if people enter a long entry, and surf away from the page or the browser crashes, the entry is lost.

Devin Bougie wrote:

Thanks, Andreas.  I was aware of the "pending draft" menu, and I am aware that you can manually browse to an entry even if it doesn't appear in the list.  However, for our operations group it is a requirement that any saved entry appears in the list, even if it's in the process of being edited.  We won't be able to upgrade until this is possible.  

Previous releases didn't have this problem, so hopefully it won't be too difficult to address with a new configuration option.  Please let me know if there's something I should do to submit an official feature request / bug report.

Thanks again,

Devin

Andreas Luedeke wrote:
Hi Devin,
this is the intended bevaviour, there is nothing wrong with that.
Only a submitted entry should be visible to the world.
If you would have played a little bit longer, you would have found out yourself how you'll get access again to this so-called "draft" entry after closing the browser window:
as soon as you attempt to create - as the same user - an new entry, you'll be asked if you want to continue editing your old draft entry instead.
I've attached a screenshot of this "pending draft" menu, as it has been shown for this entry before I've submitted it.
Kind Regards, Andreas
PS: You gave a very clear "failure" description: what you did, what you expected to happen and what you've observed what happened instead. Well done: that deserves a swift answer! smiley
Devin Bougie wrote:

When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6.

It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce:

- edit an existing entry

- click on "Save"

- view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit"

Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Many thanks,

Devin

 

 

 

  68244   Fri Jan 22 18:02:44 2016 Reply Devin Bougiedevin.bougie@cornell.eduBug reportLinux3.1.1Re: entry does not appear in list while it is being edited

Thanks, Stefan!  Yes, the old behavior is an acceptable workaround.  Although you need to use "Save drafts = 0" for this instead of "autosave = 0".

Ideally, our machine studies group would like to have the ability to save / autosave an entry *and* have it remain in the list.  We'd be very grateful to see that as an option in a future release.

Thanks again,

Devin
 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I have a question here. You say "previsous releases didn't have this problems". Well, they did not have the auto-save feature. You can turn this off if you like with "autosave = 0". This also removes the "Save" button so elog behaves exactly as before.

I decided NOT to show draft entries in the list, because these are entries currently under editing, and maybe the editor does not want others to see a half finished entry. Actually I had this feature initially and people complained about seing half finished messages in the list. Previously, when there was no "Save" button, new entries where not visible on the list because nothing was submitted at all, and I guess that was ok with you. So would reverting to the old functionality via "autosave = 0" make you happy? Of course you then loose the autosave functionality. So if people enter a long entry, and surf away from the page or the browser crashes, the entry is lost.

Devin Bougie wrote:

Thanks, Andreas.  I was aware of the "pending draft" menu, and I am aware that you can manually browse to an entry even if it doesn't appear in the list.  However, for our operations group it is a requirement that any saved entry appears in the list, even if it's in the process of being edited.  We won't be able to upgrade until this is possible.  

Previous releases didn't have this problem, so hopefully it won't be too difficult to address with a new configuration option.  Please let me know if there's something I should do to submit an official feature request / bug report.

Thanks again,

Devin

Andreas Luedeke wrote:
Hi Devin,
this is the intended bevaviour, there is nothing wrong with that.
Only a submitted entry should be visible to the world.
If you would have played a little bit longer, you would have found out yourself how you'll get access again to this so-called "draft" entry after closing the browser window:
as soon as you attempt to create - as the same user - an new entry, you'll be asked if you want to continue editing your old draft entry instead.
I've attached a screenshot of this "pending draft" menu, as it has been shown for this entry before I've submitted it.
Kind Regards, Andreas
PS: You gave a very clear "failure" description: what you did, what you expected to happen and what you've observed what happened instead. Well done: that deserves a swift answer! smiley
Devin Bougie wrote:

When an entry is being edited, it does not appear in the list once it's been autosaved or the editor manually clicks on "Save."  This has been reproduced in the "Linux Demo" forum on this site, as well as on a clean installation of the 3.1.1 binary on EL6.

It would be great if there was a configuraiton option to control this, but I haven't found it yet.  To reproduce:

- edit an existing entry

- click on "Save"

- view the list for that logbook, and the entry will be hidden until you click "Submit"

Obviously this becomes a problem when a user edits an entry, but navigates away from the browser window before submitting the changes.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Many thanks,

Devin

 

 

 

 

  67777   Wed Jan 28 18:17:15 2015 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionWindows3.3Re: enable batch file execution

Modify the server start command in the Windows Registry. Or start the elogd server directly in a command window with "elogd -x", after "cd" to the elog installation directory.

dev wrote:

How to enable the batch file execution in elogd

 

  67778   Wed Jan 28 18:21:17 2015 Reply devjoshi868b@gmail.comQuestionWindows3.3Re: enable batch file execution

I tried it but still it gives error like Shell execution not enabled via -x flag 

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Modify the server start command in the Windows Registry. Or start the elogd server directly in a command window with "elogd -x", after "cd" to the elog installation directory.

dev wrote:

How to enable the batch file execution in elogd

 

 

  67779   Wed Jan 28 18:27:44 2015 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionWindows3.3Re: enable batch file execution

Stop the old server first, but we told you this already on elog:67770. If you don't follow our suggestions we cannot help you.

dev wrote:

I tried it but still it gives error like Shell execution not enabled via -x flag 

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Modify the server start command in the Windows Registry. Or start the elogd server directly in a command window with "elogd -x", after "cd" to the elog installation directory.

dev wrote:

How to enable the batch file execution in elogd

 

 

 

  67780   Wed Jan 28 19:18:24 2015 Reply devjoshi868b@gmail.comQuestionWindows3.3Re: enable batch file execution

From the command mode i am not able to stop and start  (elogd stop). But i can start/stop from services  .Kindly help  me stopping/starting it from command 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Stop the old server first, but we told you this already on elog:67770. If you don't follow our suggestions we cannot help you.

dev wrote:

I tried it but still it gives error like Shell execution not enabled via -x flag 

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Modify the server start command in the Windows Registry. Or start the elogd server directly in a command window with "elogd -x", after "cd" to the elog installation directory.

dev wrote:

How to enable the batch file execution in elogd

 

 

 

 

  67781   Wed Jan 28 19:39:50 2015 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionWindows3.3Re: enable batch file execution

May I kindly ask you to Google how to start/stop a service from the command line.

dev wrote:

From the command mode i am not able to stop and start  (elogd stop). But i can start/stop from services  .Kindly help  me stopping/starting it from command 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Stop the old server first, but we told you this already on elog:67770. If you don't follow our suggestions we cannot help you.

dev wrote:

I tried it but still it gives error like Shell execution not enabled via -x flag 

 

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Modify the server start command in the Windows Registry. Or start the elogd server directly in a command window with "elogd -x", after "cd" to the elog installation directory.

dev wrote:

How to enable the batch file execution in elogd

 

 

 

 

 

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