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Re: Comment avoir elog en français II [solved almost], posted by David Pilgram on Mon Oct 29 12:22:30 2012

Philippe Rousselot wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Philippe Rousselot wrote:

Bonjour,

tout est dans le titre.

Merci

For those who speak strange languages, I asked how to get a french version of elog.

By the way, this is my second mail because I forgot to give an icon to the first mail, and when I hit Back to do so, my text was erased. Bug or normal obnoxious attitude of my browser ?

Thanks in advance

Philippe

ELOG comes "internationalised": you just need to set your desired language in the configuration files.

Language = french

in the configuration file elogd.cfg does the trick.

If you are capable to read the English language (which I suppose

), then I would recommend reading the manual, e.g. https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global

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PS: I happened to have the same problem (text erased after "back") when I had javascript disabled in the browser. If you have it enabled, you'll get a popup window that tells you what mandatory fields are missing in your post. Then you'll not need to use the back button.

Hi,

Thanks for the answer. I tried this (directly from de setting menu in the demo account as well as from the onfig file) :

I modified of course the text that could be modified directly from there such as menus and submenus.

I added Language = french, I restarted the server, clear the cache of firefox (IE as well), but list, new and so on appear in english even they are in the locale file...

Indeed, the manual is very interesting

concerning javascript, it is activated ...

Thanks again

Philippe

Found it !

I wanted to have locale set in the folder demo (so I could have one in french and one in english).

Once language set in globals everything went fine. Almost...

Philippe

May I make a suggestion here? Something I do for other reasons. I run two separate elog daemons, each with their own configuration files. In this case you could have one configuration file tout en française, and the other in English. This gets around the language setting being in the Global section of the configuration file elog.cfg

Of course this needs a little planning, for example a small script/batch file to start up each daemon with the correct config file. - so on my linux system, I start one with

/usr/local/sbin/elogd -p 8080 -c /home/logbooks/elogd0.cfg -d /home/logbooks

and the other with

/usr/local/sbin/elogd -p 8081 -c /home/logbooks/elogd1.cfg -d /home/logbooks

The disadvantage is that you cannot click between French and English by the tabs along the top of the elog page, you'd have to switch between browser windows.

Hope this helps.

David.

Re: Comment avoir elog en français II [solved almost], posted by Andreas Luedeke on Mon Oct 29 17:27:12 2012

David Pilgram wrote:

[...]

Of course this needs a little planning, for example a small script/batch file to start up each daemon with the correct config file. - so on my linux system, I start one with

/usr/local/sbin/elogd -p 8080 -c /home/logbooks/elogd0.cfg -d /home/logbooks

and the other with

/usr/local/sbin/elogd -p 8081 -c /home/logbooks/elogd1.cfg -d /home/logbooks

The disadvantage is that you cannot click between French and English by the tabs along the top of the elog page, you'd have to switch between browser windows.

Hope this helps.

David.

Does this work nice and stable for you? I've tried at the beginning to run two server on one host, one in German and the other in English.

I experienced occasional server crashes (every few days) and assumed that they were related to two mirrors running on the same host.

A mirror server just for a second language was not of big importance to me, therefore I did shut down the mirror server.

And the server stopped crashing then. Was that just coincidence?

I recognised that you are not running a mirror, you let both logbook processes access the same data. Is that save?

Did you ever see data corruption from two processes modifying the same data? Or is one of the ELOG servers not used much?

Thanks for sharing your experience!

Andreas

Re: Comment avoir elog en français II [solved almost], posted by David Pilgram on Mon Oct 29 19:10:37 2012

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

David Pilgram wrote:

[...]

Of course this needs a little planning, for example a small script/batch file to start up each daemon with the correct config file. - so on my linux system, I start one with

/usr/local/sbin/elogd -p 8080 -c /home/logbooks/elogd0.cfg -d /home/logbooks

and the other with

/usr/local/sbin/elogd -p 8081 -c /home/logbooks/elogd1.cfg -d /home/logbooks

The disadvantage is that you cannot click between French and English by the tabs along the top of the elog page, you'd have to switch between browser windows.

Hope this helps.

David.

Does this work nice and stable for you? I've tried at the beginning to run two server on one host, one in German and the other in English.

I experienced occasional server crashes (every few days) and assumed that they were related to two mirrors running on the same host.

A mirror server just for a second language was not of big importance to me, therefore I did shut down the mirror server.

And the server stopped crashing then. Was that just coincidence?

I recognised that you are not running a mirror, you let both logbook processes access the same data. Is that save?

Did you ever see data corruption from two processes modifying the same data? Or is one of the ELOG servers not used much?

Thanks for sharing your experience!

Andreas

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I'd better put some caveats in here, then!

The two daemons on my host were never accessing the same subdirectories of /home/logbooks (this is my location, for ease of data backups (*)), and they were running with owner 'nobody', i.e. that's the owner of each directory. In that sense they were independant, and as I was the only user, only one daemon would be working on files at any one moment.

Next is that my system is never running for so many days uninterrupted. The computer sometimes has to be booted into Windoze to use the CAD program, or even was just shut down and switched off.

I realise now that my earlier reply may have lead people to think they could work on the same data with two separate daemons (so as to work in their own language, but the data would be in both....) but I never meant to give that impresssion. I've simply not tried it. It might work on a stand-alone system, but I don't know how elog copes with multiple users accessing data at the same time - lock files? check to see if data has been altered before allowing a submission is probably not done (it would make a branch if branches were allowed, I think) - I don't have the experience of using elog under these circumstances. I thought Philippe Rousselot wanted a French language logbook and a separate English language one. If I'm wrong there, sorry to raise his hopes.

Make a nice little project for someone to explore the limits, and maybe find what changes are needed. Not necessarily to impliment it, though.

As for data corruption, never seen any, but I suppose the general warning of keep the backups well up-to-date. I have had trouble with data, in particular moving data between logbooks, and this is one reason I have experience of how to make an elog entry using a text editor, as well as how to modify entries - to assemble scattered entries into a thread, or split a long thread into two shorter ones for ease of handling. But I don't think those were ever connected to having two deamons running on one host, it happens when just one is running.

(*) In principle, all my data can be put on a memory stick - currently 16GB - and then I can run any linux box with full access to all my data, with the memory stick mounted on /home.

Re: admin user access admin page, not config page, posted by Garret Delaronde on Fri May 10 17:37:24 2013

Szu-Ching Peckner wrote:

We have multiple logbooks. Each user is admin user for his/her own logbook.

I want user be able to modify config file, but no access to user setting, such as see user list, change password, new user, remove user.

[logbook1]
Admin user = user1
Login user = user1, user2
Allow Config = user1
List Menu commands = Admin, Config

user1 click on Admin, it opens config file, when user1 click on save, user1 is brought to Config page, which has select user list on top, Change password, Remove user, New user buttons on bottom. Is there a way that admin user has access to config file, but no access to user info at all (not even presented to them). Is there a way after user1 click save, page doesn't go to that config page?

I could put
Deny Change password =
Deny Remove user
Deny New user

so when user1 click on those buttons, user1 will get command not allowed. However I would rather have user1 not even see that page.

If they have admin rights, the add user button cannot be removed as far as I know.

But even if they can add a user, they only have ability to add a user to the single logbook they are an admin on so they wouldn't be able to add users to other peoples logbooks.

Not sure it helps but that's about all I can really speak to.