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Thu Dec 27 01:33:11 2012 |
| Valentin | Valentin.Kozlov@kit.edu | Question | All | 2.92 | How to put "Quote text" _below_ new message? | Hi there,
It seems that by default in a message created as "reply" of another message, the "quoted text" of the original entry is put at the _TOP_ of the new entry and not movable (Firefox 17, elog 2.92). I would strongly like to have it opposite, i.e. that one is able to create a new text first and only then has the "quoted text" since people are interested to see a new information and only then the previous messages as sort of "reminder". It was like this in older (2.6?) version but now I did not find how to change this default behavior. Did I miss something?
Cheers
Valentin |
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Mon Jun 30 10:55:29 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Question | Linux | 2.7.4 | Sorting Museremail | We use elog for (amongst other things) a simple change management log. About two dozen users allowed to do updates and their email addresses are listed at the bottom of the page to allow any of them to be included on circulation for a change request. The email addresses appear in the order that they were added (i.e. apparently random). Is there any way to sort these, ideally by Last part of Full Name/First part of Full Name, but login name or email address would be OK?
Thanks for a great piece of software.
Steve |
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Thu Nov 13 13:23:32 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Bug report | Linux | 2.7.5 | Special characters in attribute names | Hi
Thanks for elog - it's a brilliant piece of software. I'd looked all over for open source software to log/manage change requests before discovering elog; it's so flexible that I've been able to do everything I need with it.
However, I think that I've just discovered my first undocumented 'feature'. Attribute names containing punctuation characters (e.g. / and :) cause "Redirection limit for this URL exceeded" errors in Firefox 3.0.2 and corrupt the URL if they're used in a Quick Filter. I often use '/' in attribute names for brevity, e.g. "Old/New Versions" but hadn't used one in a Quick Filter before.
keep up the good work.
regards
Steve
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Thu Nov 13 13:25:25 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Request | Linux | 2.7.5 | Sorting Museremail | Hi
I've just upgraded to 2.7.5 mainly because I wanted to have Museremail sorted. We use this to list contacts on an RFC form and it's much easier to find the ones you want when they are in a predictable sequence. As an extension to this it would be great if they could be sorted by the last part of their real name - typical user, give him a sweetie and he wants jam on it!
cheers
Steve |
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Mon Nov 17 12:07:18 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Request | Linux | 2.7.5 | Re: Sorting Museremail |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Steve Williamson wrote: |
Hi
I've just upgraded to 2.7.5 mainly because I wanted to have Museremail sorted. We use this to list contacts on an RFC form and it's much easier to find the ones you want when they are in a predictable sequence. As an extension to this it would be great if they could be sorted by the last part of their real name - typical user, give him a sweetie and he wants jam on it!
cheers
Steve
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That's a bit hard since different groups enter their names differently. While for a human it's easy to figure out what the family name is (usually), this must not be true for a computer. So I would propose that you enter the real names in the sequence family name, given name like
Ritt, Stefan
Doe, John
then sorting will work as you like.
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Good point! However, the current sorting appears to be done on email address rather than name. Having the option to sort on name, where we are in control of the format so could structure it accordingly, would be great.
regards
Steve
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Mon Nov 17 13:03:19 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Request | Linux | 2.7.5 | Re: Sorting Museremail |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Steve Williamson wrote: |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Steve Williamson wrote: |
Hi
I've just upgraded to 2.7.5 mainly because I wanted to have Museremail sorted. We use this to list contacts on an RFC form and it's much easier to find the ones you want when they are in a predictable sequence. As an extension to this it would be great if they could be sorted by the last part of their real name - typical user, give him a sweetie and he wants jam on it!
cheers
Steve
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That's a bit hard since different groups enter their names differently. While for a human it's easy to figure out what the family name is (usually), this must not be true for a computer. So I would propose that you enter the real names in the sequence family name, given name like
Ritt, Stefan
Doe, John
then sorting will work as you like.
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Good point! However, the current sorting appears to be done on email address rather than name. Having the option to sort on name, where we are in control of the format so could structure it accordingly, would be great.
regards
Steve
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Can you give me an example on how names an email addresses look in your case? If the email address has no fix relation to the real name, I personally find it much harder to find an email address on a Muserlist, since the real name is not shown there. I guess what you really want is a display of the email addres in the form
real name <email address>
then sort by real name. Right?
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We currently have 24 users set up which, using a normal font size, takes 6 lines to display Museremail. Having realname+emailaddress would double the space - a bit much for us but may suit other users.
You ask about how our email addresses look. These are very simple, e.g. John Smith's email address would be "JohnSmith@mycompany.co.uk". The are some exceptions, e.g. one or two people have a middle initial,or have a department name as a suffix and some people have abbreviated names because that is how they are known, so John's brother Joseph, known as Joe, might be JoeSoap@mycompany.co.uk and one or two users have a different domain. So the ordering looks a bit odd sometimes, e.g.:
* StanleySmith@mycompany.co.uk * StellaEvans@mycompany.co.uk * StephenJones@mycompany.co.uk * StephenSmith@myothercompany.co.uk
* SterlingGold@mycompany.co.uk * SteuartEvans@mycompany.co.uk * SteveSmythe@mycompany.co.uk * SylviaJones@mycompany.co.uk ...
where Steve Smythe has shifted down the ranks because of the abbreviation.
However, the main reason for the request was that the I was so pleased with the ordering introduced in 2.7.5 but, as it is more normal for me to look down a list of names ordered by last-name/first-name than the other way about, I thought it worth asking if there was any way to do this sensibly. I appreciate that it isn't simple and what suits me may well not suit others - so thanks for taking time to consider the possibilities. I guess the only real solution is to define users differently, e.g. by structuring the name data into first name(s) and last name (not a global solution but would suit most of western europe and the USA at least!) but that is bound to have lots of impacts both on the application and on existing setups - so not really feasible, and probably not worth the disruption.
regards
Steve
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Thu Nov 20 10:29:39 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Request | Linux | 2.7.5 | Re: Sorting Museremail |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Steve Williamson wrote: |
However, the main reason for the request was that the I was so pleased with the ordering introduced in 2.7.5 but, as it is more normal for me to look down a list of names ordered by last-name/first-name than the other way about, I thought it worth asking if there was any way to do this sensibly. I appreciate that it isn't simple and what suits me may well not suit others - so thanks for taking time to consider the possibilities. I guess the only real solution is to define users differently, e.g. by structuring the name data into first name(s) and last name (not a global solution but would suit most of western europe and the USA at least!) but that is bound to have lots of impacts both on the application and on existing setups - so not really feasible, and probably not worth the disruption.
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That's correct. Adding first name(s), last name(s) requires major modifications which are not se easy and I don't have time for that in the moment. So we'll keep it for the time being.
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That's fine. Thanks for listenening - and for keeping on with elog
regards
Steve
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Mon Nov 24 13:49:56 2008 |
| Steve Williamson | StephenWilliamson@Barnsley.gov.uk | Bug report | Linux | 2.7.5 | Re: Special characters in attribute names |
Stefan Ritt wrote: |
Steve Williamson wrote: |
Hi
Thanks for elog - it's a brilliant piece of software. I'd looked all over for open source software to log/manage change requests before discovering elog; it's so flexible that I've been able to do everything I need with it.
However, I think that I've just discovered my first undocumented 'feature'. Attribute names containing punctuation characters (e.g. / and :) cause "Redirection limit for this URL exceeded" errors in Firefox 3.0.2 and corrupt the URL if they're used in a Quick Filter. I often use '/' in attribute names for brevity, e.g. "Old/New Versions" but hadn't used one in a Quick Filter before.
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Quick answer: Don't use '/' in attribute names ;-) but I guess you were kind of afraid to get this answer.
Somehow longer answer: I tried to reproduce your problem with following configuration:
[demo]
Attributes = Author, Type, Subject, Old/New
Options Old/New = Old, New
Quick filter = Type, Old/New
But I was not successful. Everything worked fine using ELOG V2.7.5-2137. Can you please check with the above configuration and tell me exactly when the redirection problem occurs? Is it during filtering on already on creating a new entry?
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Thanks for the advice!
I've just had time to set up a test for this using both empty and populated logbooks (which don't have Hardware/Software in every entry as the field was added recently) and newly created logbooks (which have consistent attributes) and saw the problem on .
The control ("Hardware/Software") causing the problem has three options "Hardware Only", "Software Only" and "Both". The problem happens every time you click on the "-- Hardware/Software --" (i.e. All) option in the Quick Filter after having previously selected one (or more) of the options as a filter. This produces the error:
The page isn't redirecting properly
Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
* This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies.
I ran elog with a trace (attached) which shows lots of:
select(1024, [5], NULL, NULL, {1, 0}) = 1 (in [5], left {1, 0})
recv(5, "GET /Change_Log/?Hardware%2FSoftware=_all_ HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: localhost:8080\r\nUser-"..., 100000, 0) = 619
stat64("/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1323, ...}) = 0
time(NULL) = 1227528904
send(5, "HTTP/1.1 302 Found\r\nServer: ELOG HTTP 2.7.5-2130\r\nConnection: Keep-Alive\r\nKeep-A"..., 199, 0) = 199
send(5, "<html>redir</html>\r\n", 20, 0) = 20
messages after selecting "-- Hardware/Software --"
The only difference between today's test and last week's is that today the browser is on the local machine.
I also attach my (anonymised) elogd.cfg
Hope this helps
regards
Steve
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