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  67196   Tue Feb 14 14:54:06 2012 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chBug fixLinux | Windows2.9.0Re: ssl problems

John Doroshenko wrote:

 

[...] The elog server is running SL5.5 (updates applied).  As you suggested, I ran firefox 3.6.26 on the elog server via https://localhost:port and it worked fine.   Downloaded firefox 10.0.1 and retried

on elog server and get error again:  The connection was Reset; The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

-John

Finally I was able to reproduce the problem. I don't know why FF10 worked locally on the ELOG host last weekend, maybe I shouldn't have worked on it during a night shift. I can now confirm that ELOG has problems with firefox 10.0.1.

For those who need a quick workaround: you can set-up apache to access elog via a reverse proxy (like I do and like Stefan does for the ELOG forum does). That 'll work fine with new browsers like FF10.0.1 (at least for apache 2.2) ;-)

Some guidance how to set it up can be found here: https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Contributions/11

A shorter (but may be incomplete) summary:

  • add in httpd.conf
    • Listen 443
      LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so
    • ServerName <fully-qualified-host-name>
    •  
  • add in ssl.conf
    • <VirtualHost _default_:443>

ErrorLog logs/ssl_error_log
TransferLog logs/ssl_access_log
LogLevel warn
SSLEngine on
SSLProxyEngine on
ProxyPreserveHost On
<Location />
    ProxyPass         https://<fully-qualified-host-name>:444/
    ProxyPassReverse  https://<fully-qualified-host-name>:444/
    SSLRequireSSL
</Location>
SSLProtocol all -SSLv2
SSLCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT:!SSLv2:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW
SSLProxyCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
SSLCertificateFile "<cert-file>"
SSLCertificateKeyFile "<cert-key-file>"
</VirtualHost> 

  • And in the ELOG configuration [global] section
    •  port = 444
    • URL = https://<fully-qualified-host-name>                 

Cheers

Andreas

 
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  67195   Tue Feb 14 00:55:58 2012 Reply John Doroshenkodoroshenko@physics.rutgers.eduBug fixLinux | Windows2.9.0Re: ssl problems

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

John Doroshenko wrote:

Olaf Kasten wrote:

 Hi there,

I have a connection problem with an actual elog installation. Many Browsers like as Chrome, Firefox and IE don't  connect to the elog server with ssl = 1 in elogd.cfg. 

I tested with Firefox 3.6 and IE 7 installations and there are no problems.

I guess it's a bug. Does someone have a suggestion to solve that problem?

Thx. Olaf

 Hi!

This just started happening here also.  Some users can't get on to a SSL=1 config'd elog using either IE or firefox 10 (win7 or linux) or chrome.  SAFARI works.  Occurs in 2.8.0 and a newly built (even after

ssl yum updates) 2.9.0 version on SL5.5 system.  Seems to accept self signed cert then nothing.. (connection reset message).   Tried an stunnel from one port to port running elog

with SSL=0.  Same behavior.  Doesn't work on some browsers.  Any clues?

Thanks,

-John

Hi everyone,
it appears that many people have this problem. I believe this is simply a problem of your firewall settings. There are two simple checks you can do to test if I'm right or wrong:
  • Run your logbook on the standard port 443 and retry. If the special port has been opened on the firewall, it has been likely only opened for specific clients like firefox 3.6, IE 7, etc. If you use a different client (FF 10, IE 9) the port can be blocked.
  • Or just run the browser that does not work on the ELOG server. If it works to access ELOG via localhost, then you know for sure that it is the firewall.
I've actually tested it here at my institute: I've downloaded firefox 10 and could access ELOG on port 443 but couldn't access it on port 444, unless I've started FF10 on the ELOG host.
To John, Olaf and Christian: If you need to be able to use a special port and a certain set of browsers then just contact your computing division or whoever maintains your firewalls.
 
I hope this settles the matter.
Cheers
Andreas
 
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PS: I've solved this with the help of google  : have a look at http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2295421#2295421 about firewalls

 Hi,

Thanks for the reply. 

The elog server is running SL5.5 (updates applied).  As you suggested, I ran firefox 3.6.26 on the elog server via https://localhost:port and it worked fine.   Downloaded firefox 10.0.1 and retried

on elog server and get error again:  The connection was Reset; The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

-John

 

  67194   Mon Feb 13 22:13:40 2012 Question Diegodiego.obradors@ciemat.esQuestionWindows2.9.0top text in new user

 Hi,

I am using Top text becouse I would like to have the same header in all logbooks. However it is working in the "new user registration page" and I would like to evoid it. Is that possible?

Thank you so much!!

Diego

  67193   Mon Feb 13 21:44:05 2012 Reply Olaf Kastenolaf.kasten@deutschebahn.comBug fixLinux | Windows2.9.0Re: ssl problems
> > well it's not a server but my laptop, but yeah, the elog server and the browser ran on the same machine, no iptables.
> 
> Strange: I thought I was able to reproduce your problem, but no: whatever browser I try I can access ELOG with SSL if
> browser and ELOG are running on the same host. Same as you: clean install but no problem occurs. I haven't tried on a
> newer operating system yet. Still I tend to believe that it would not reproduce your problem. Maybe I'll try at home
> with ubuntu. Let's first wait what the other two report: if those problems are not related to firewall issues, Stefan
> will likely see into it anyway.

Well, it's definitely not a firewall problem. I tried it on hosts in different networks and of course in the same subnet as 
the elog server. As I wrote I tried it with different browsers on different OS and everywhere I had same issues if I used 
newer browsers. So I guess there are interoperability problems between elog and newer browsers.

And by the way if I change ssl = 1 to ssl = 0 there are no problems with any browsers.

But I want to use the ssl feature because security reasons.

Hope Stefan could locate and fix the problem.

Thx
  67192   Mon Feb 13 18:36:29 2012 Reply Diegodiego.obradors@ciemat.esCommentLinux2.9.0Re: problems with https in Chrome and IE

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

Christian Herzog wrote:
[...] we're evaluating elog right now at the Physics Department of ETH Zurich and I'm trying to come up with a good config. One of the first steps of course was to enable SSL/https. With http, all tested browsers work fine, but with https at least Google Chrome 16 and IE 9 do not get past the "unknown certificate" warning and I see "TCP connection broken" errors in the log file. Firefox however works fine. Same behavior on Linux, Mac and Windows (given the browser in question is available). elog server is running on Lucid.[...

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 [...] The proper way out of this is to buy a certificate from a certification authority. Or to switch off https. (See https://midas.psi.ch/elog/config.html#global SSL option)

we know about certificates, thank you 
The point is that it stops AFTER the point at which I tell the browser to accept the self-signed certificates. I now even got a CACert and the problem remains: FF works, Chrome and IE don't: https://phd-bkp-gw2.ethz.ch:8080/admin/
log says: TCP connection broken [...]

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Sorry that I was mis-interpreting your question
Unfortunately I don't know what's wrong with your set-up. I can confirm that I cannot access your logbook with "konquerer", but can access it with "firefox". The "konquerer" (on Scientific Linux 5.7) just gets timed out.
But I can access other SSL/https ELOGs with the konquerer. The problem only occurs with your logbook!
Therefore I would think it is a particular problem of your installation. I have three ideas how to isolate the problem:
  • first, I would try to change to the standard port 443. Just in case it is related to some firewall, etc. problem.
  • second, I would try another operating system than Ubuntu Lucid. It should work of course with Ubuntu, but if it still doesn't work with the other operating system then many things are already ruled out.
  • third, I would try to set-up an apache webserver in front of ELOG. We have it here just for safety reasons. ELOG runs then on some special port and apache connects to it with a reverse proxy.
The latter is a little bit of work (about a day) if you never set-up apache before. Therefore I would try the other two, first.
Good luck!

thanks for the fast resonse.
1) port 433 done. No change
2) compiled elog 2.9.0 on Squeeze and only reused the config file. No change: https://daduke.org:8443/
3) we can do that (and we will) no problem, but I'd like to get it working w/o apache nonetheless
speaking of reverse proxy: we'd like to hook elog to our LDAP server. As there's no LDAP binding built in, is there any way to use apache LDAP auth and then bind to that one?[...]

Okay, I did run out of ideas. I've never tested Chrome, but IE 8 and konquerer works fine here with SSL for our logbooks, but not for your logbook. [...]

 
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[...]

And just for the record: I have to conclude a clean install of elog 2.9.0 SSL does not work for half of the browsers out there on Debian Squeeze or Ubuntu Lucid right now. You might want to look into that.

thanks,

-Christian

 

Excuse me, but I beg to differ. I'm running ELOG V2.9.0-2425 on my production server, therefore I thought that you're maybe right that the latest SVN snapshot has a problem.

I've downloaded it just now from SVN (it is V2.9.0- 2427), compiled it on SL 5.7, installed it and I can easily access it with IE8, Safari, konquerer and firefox.

 
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 well maybe SL 5.7 is the explanation - it's old as the hills. Maybe newer versions of libssl or whatever make a difference? I might also try on a recent Fedora, let's see..

 

 update: clean install on F16, plain vanilla, same problem: TCP connection broken

See https://midas.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/67184 to fix that problem. It is likely not a problem of ELOG, but of your firewall settings.

 
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see #67184, I'm pretty positive it isn't.

-Christian 

 Hi,

I have the same problem. with SSL = 1 in elog.cfg I am not able to connect using firefox 10 or chrome. However, using Internet explorer 6.0 it works fine.

Everything it has been checked in a local machine with windows 7 with and without firewall. 

Use port 443, works fine with all browser.

Thank you so much!

Diego

  67191   Mon Feb 13 13:38:19 2012 Entry Adam dellzoid@hotmail.comQuestionLinux2.7.8redirect permission

Hi All,

Perhaps a trivial question but some issues have arisen accessing my long-running elog with SSL enabled.  I suspect firewalls and browser updates are involved and I do not have the time or experience to diagnose and debug such a potential black-hole of difficulties.  Instead I am looking for a quick fix, and the first step - switching off sll - seems to work.  Now I would like to use redirect so that the elog is running under apache, however this is where I have stumbled; I have passwords so the plan is to eventually secure using apache.  Apache works fine and is running pages on ports 80 and 443, although I seem unable to redirect the elog (port 8080).  Following the instructions on the administrators guide I get:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /elog/ on this server.

The page is found at least so my redirect is doing something, and I suspect the solution is trivial, though I'm not too sure where to start.

 

-------------------

 

Also, what is  the best practice for updating one's elog version.  I originally installed using a tarball.

 

 

 

  67190   Sat Feb 11 22:37:34 2012 Reply Andreas Luedekeandreas.luedeke@psi.chBug fixLinux | Windows2.9.0Re: ssl problems
> well it's not a server but my laptop, but yeah, the elog server and the browser ran on the same machine, no iptables.

Strange: I thought I was able to reproduce your problem, but no: whatever browser I try I can access ELOG with SSL if
browser and ELOG are running on the same host. Same as you: clean install but no problem occurs. I haven't tried on a
newer operating system yet. Still I tend to believe that it would not reproduce your problem. Maybe I'll try at home
with ubuntu. Let's first wait what the other two report: if those problems are not related to firewall issues, Stefan
will likely see into it anyway.
  67189   Sat Feb 11 22:27:15 2012 Reply Christian Herzogherzog@phys.ethz.chBug fixLinux | Windows2.9.0Re: ssl problems
well it's not a server but my laptop, but yeah, the elog server and the browser ran on the same machine, no iptables.
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