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    icon2.gif   Re: Invalid Content-Length in header when running behind a load balancer, posted by Tamas Gal on Wed Jan 25 19:51:29 2023 

I put the ELOG service behind an Apache reverse proxy which is now sitting behind the HAProxy. It works like this, but it's just a workaround. I am pretty sure that ELOG has problems to communicate with HAProxy correctly and it seems that Apache is more forgiving. So that the chain HAProxy -> Apache -> ELOG and vice versa is working.

If anyone manages to figure out what's wrong, I am happy to get rid of the extra reverse proxy layer!

Tamas Gal wrote:

I am still struggling to get ELOG running behind a load balancer and hope to get some advice here. As already reported in https://elog.psi.ch/elogs/Forum/69542 I observed an infinite loop of redirects when prompted to log in and using a non-empty password file. Without a password, the service worked as expected. This was with version 3.1.3.

With the new version 3.1.4-3, I get another error: "Invalid Content-Length in header" when I click on "submit" of a new post. Viewing the logbooks works fine. The instance is currently live and running here: https://elog.test.km3net.de but I might change it anytime due to debugging etc.

This is a kind of difficult thing to debug (I spent the whole day and no progress). The only thing I've found was this post: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/iis-support-blog/invalid-content-length/ba-p/3038724 where it seems that some responses are not RFC conform and were rejected in the load-balancer.

The load balancer I use is HAProxy, the same as in my old setup where I got the infinite redirects, and I can't find any setting which would work. To my understanding, the most basic setup should work just fine. The SSL termination is on the load-balancer side so ELOG doesn't even have to know anything about it. The configuration is below. I am running a single instance, so there is not even replication with session keep-alive via cookies or anything fancy.

I also want to mention that I am runnin around 30 different services behind the load balancer and none of them are having any issues with the SSL termination or the load-balancing itself, that's why assume that something in ELOG is either non-conform or buggy.

Any thoughts? I'd really like to use the same infrastructure for the ELOG service as for every other service (automatic certificate renewal via letsencrypt, load-balancing, easy movement to other nodes, SSL termination etc.), to minimise the complexity of our Docker Swarm system.

backend be_elog.km3net.de
    mode http
    server-template km3net-elog- 1 km3net-elog_elog:8080 check resolvers docker init-addr libc,none

 

Btw. I am running ELOG with -v but I don't see any error whatsoever in the logs:

km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | GET /demo/ HTTP/1.1
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "ios_specific_templates_id"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "rl_anonymous_id"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "rl_group_id"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "rl_group_trait"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "rl_trait"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "rl_user_id"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Received unknown cookie "logged_out_marketing_header_id"
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Returned 3437 bytes
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | GET / HTTP/1.1
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Returned 120 bytes
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | GET /demo/ HTTP/1.1
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Returned 3518 bytes
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | GET / HTTP/1.1
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Returned 120 bytes
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | GET /demo/ HTTP/1.1
km3net-elog_elog.1.fm8i1eia9l9t@ecap-s021    | Returned 3518 bytes

 

    icon2.gif   Re: ssl certificate, posted by Laurent Jean-Rigaud on Wed Jan 25 21:44:51 2023 

Hi Giuseppe,

The new certificate files should be copy under ssl folder (/usr/local/elog/ssl or /usr/share/elog/ssl by example, closed to templates and script directories) in place of the embedded (autosigned) certificate files enclosed with ELOG source.

It seems that there is no parameter to set a custom path.

SSL = <0 | 1>
Turn on Secure Socket Layer transport. If SSL is on, one can connect via https://... to the elogd daemon. If the URL = directive is used, make sure to use https://... instead of http://... there. The ELOG distribution contains a simple self-signed certificate in the ssl subdirectory. One can replace this certificate and key with a real ceritficate to avoid browser pop-up windows warning about the self-signed certificate. The default for this option is 0.

 

 

Giuseppe Cucinotta wrote:

We obtained a certificate from let's encrypt in order to replace the self signed certificate provided with elog. We copied the new certificates replacing the older server.crt

The problem is that when restarted elog raises an error related to the fact it is looking for server.crt and it doesn't find it anymore.

I searched in elog config file in order to find a way to indicate the new certificate but I didn't find how to manage this issue.

Any suggestion?

 

    icon2.gif   Re: ssl certificate, posted by Giuseppe Cucinotta on Wed Jan 25 22:22:07 2023 

Hi Laurent,

thanks very much! Probably I've copied the certificate in the wrong directory. I'll try ASAP

Laurent Jean-Rigaud wrote:

Hi Giuseppe,

The new certificate files should be copy under ssl folder (/usr/local/elog/ssl or /usr/share/elog/ssl by example, closed to templates and script directories) in place of the embedded (autosigned) certificate files enclosed with ELOG source.

It seems that there is no parameter to set a custom path.

SSL = <0 | 1>
Turn on Secure Socket Layer transport. If SSL is on, one can connect via https://... to the elogd daemon. If the URL = directive is used, make sure to use https://... instead of http://... there. The ELOG distribution contains a simple self-signed certificate in the ssl subdirectory. One can replace this certificate and key with a real ceritficate to avoid browser pop-up windows warning about the self-signed certificate. The default for this option is 0.

 

 

Giuseppe Cucinotta wrote:

We obtained a certificate from let's encrypt in order to replace the self signed certificate provided with elog. We copied the new certificates replacing the older server.crt

The problem is that when restarted elog raises an error related to the fact it is looking for server.crt and it doesn't find it anymore.

I searched in elog config file in order to find a way to indicate the new certificate but I didn't find how to manage this issue.

Any suggestion?

 

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by Andreas Luedeke on Fri Jan 27 22:25:18 2023 

It appears to me that this is a really stupid problem: the article provides many links to sources, but they are just links, not "references". That does not count, since links could be something else than references.

I'll try to edit it and transform the list of external links into references to verify the text. Lets hope that this will suffice.

Okay: found three articles about applications of ELOG and put them under references. I took the liberty to submit the draft: it shows that they expect some month delay for a review. I have no idea if that was what they want, but it is worth a try.

Edmund Blomley wrote:

If I understand it correctly I think it has to be submitted for review with the blue button on that page, just not sure if that should come from your side or someone else

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I added some more references, that's about all I can do. Not sure if that is enough.

Stefan

Edmund Blomley wrote:

It was now moved to the Draft space (which I did not even now existed so far): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ELOG

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

I have requested an undeletion of the article. The article was deleted  "PROD", which means that someone tagged it. And if noone removes the tag, it could be deleted.

I could revive the article. So in the future, One should have an eye on it and maybe update the current version of the software.

If there iy an paper on the elog, maybe it could be cited for more creditability.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It looks to me like only an author of an article can contradict a deletion. I did not find a single method to even comment on the deletion.
I am not an Wikipedia expert, can anyone suggest on how to push for the article to be restored? Or do we just write it again, until people stop deleting it?

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I agree. I ahead ;-) I think it is not a good idea if the ELOG author pushes on that, but better someone else.

Best,
Stefan

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Hello,

I noticed the wikipedia article of the ELOG got deleted in November 2021.
With the reason: "Poorly sourced article, and I was not able to find good sources myself."

I could access the old article through web.archive.org, but for the project it would be good, if the article got revived.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by John Kelly on Sat Jan 28 08:11:05 2023 
Wikipedia has been an unreliable source for a very long time, just for the reasons that we are seeing here now with psi and Elog. Those that 'run' Wikipedia are political and authoratative. I have not only had these negative experiences with 'them' but know of many others that have as well. I see no reason why an organization as  ours with such great ideas,  programs and people need to be on their site. I think it would 'say more' if we left this as is and let others see how unreliable Wikipedia really is.
John
Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It appears to me that this is a really stupid problem: the article provides many links to sources, but they are just links, not "references". That does not count, since links could be something else than references.

I'll try to edit it and transform the list of external links into references to verify the text. Lets hope that this will suffice.

Okay: found three articles about applications of ELOG and put them under references. I took the liberty to submit the draft: it shows that they expect some month delay for a review. I have no idea if that was what they want, but it is worth a try.

Edmund Blomley wrote:

If I understand it correctly I think it has to be submitted for review with the blue button on that page, just not sure if that should come from your side or someone else

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I added some more references, that's about all I can do. Not sure if that is enough.

Stefan

Edmund Blomley wrote:

It was now moved to the Draft space (which I did not even now existed so far): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ELOG

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

I have requested an undeletion of the article. The article was deleted  "PROD", which means that someone tagged it. And if noone removes the tag, it could be deleted.

I could revive the article. So in the future, One should have an eye on it and maybe update the current version of the software.

If there iy an paper on the elog, maybe it could be cited for more creditability.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It looks to me like only an author of an article can contradict a deletion. I did not find a single method to even comment on the deletion.
I am not an Wikipedia expert, can anyone suggest on how to push for the article to be restored? Or do we just write it again, until people stop deleting it?

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I agree. I ahead ;-) I think it is not a good idea if the ELOG author pushes on that, but better someone else.

Best,
Stefan

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Hello,

I noticed the wikipedia article of the ELOG got deleted in November 2021.
With the reason: "Poorly sourced article, and I was not able to find good sources myself."

I could access the old article through web.archive.org, but for the project it would be good, if the article got revived.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    icon2.gif   Re: Wikipedia Article deleted, posted by David Pilgram on Sat Jan 28 14:26:07 2023 

I am rather with John on this.

I deliberately stopped contributing to Wikipedia years ago after I added an observation to an entry.  That is, a piece of what could be called original research.  It was shot down in flames for being precisely that: original research.    From what I read in the Draft:Elog and the Talk section,  I think that the same issue in some guise or other will come up.  All of us use and love Elog - I think I use it for all of the listed purposes - but apart from being in the Debian distro (which I did not know about) there is very little published primary sources.  Mind you, the quality of publications as primary sources can be questioned, I can bore on with several examples.  

Has anyone ever published a paper citing their filing cabinet organisation?  Elog's obviously different, but has the same problem when it comes to citations.  It is a utility, a very useful one, but the sort of utility that might just make an aside in a paper these days.  If we were in the 1980s and (hypothetically) Elog was available and as functional, that would probably make it the subject in computer research papers and magazines. 

 

David.

John Kelly wrote:
Wikipedia has been an unreliable source for a very long time, just for the reasons that we are seeing here now with psi and Elog. Those that 'run' Wikipedia are political and authoratative. I have not only had these negative experiences with 'them' but know of many others that have as well. I see no reason why an organization as  ours with such great ideas,  programs and people need to be on their site. I think it would 'say more' if we left this as is and let others see how unreliable Wikipedia really is.
John
Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It appears to me that this is a really stupid problem: the article provides many links to sources, but they are just links, not "references". That does not count, since links could be something else than references.

I'll try to edit it and transform the list of external links into references to verify the text. Lets hope that this will suffice.

Okay: found three articles about applications of ELOG and put them under references. I took the liberty to submit the draft: it shows that they expect some month delay for a review. I have no idea if that was what they want, but it is worth a try.

Edmund Blomley wrote:

If I understand it correctly I think it has to be submitted for review with the blue button on that page, just not sure if that should come from your side or someone else

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I added some more references, that's about all I can do. Not sure if that is enough.

Stefan

Edmund Blomley wrote:

It was now moved to the Draft space (which I did not even now existed so far): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ELOG

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

I have requested an undeletion of the article. The article was deleted  "PROD", which means that someone tagged it. And if noone removes the tag, it could be deleted.

I could revive the article. So in the future, One should have an eye on it and maybe update the current version of the software.

If there iy an paper on the elog, maybe it could be cited for more creditability.

Andreas Luedeke wrote:

It looks to me like only an author of an article can contradict a deletion. I did not find a single method to even comment on the deletion.
I am not an Wikipedia expert, can anyone suggest on how to push for the article to be restored? Or do we just write it again, until people stop deleting it?

Stefan Ritt wrote:

I agree. I ahead ;-) I think it is not a good idea if the ELOG author pushes on that, but better someone else.

Best,
Stefan

Sebastian Schenk wrote:

Hello,

I noticed the wikipedia article of the ELOG got deleted in November 2021.
With the reason: "Poorly sourced article, and I was not able to find good sources myself."

I could access the old article through web.archive.org, but for the project it would be good, if the article got revived.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    icon2.gif   Re: CKeditor Settings Cant Be Changed , posted by Stefan Ritt on Wed Feb 1 11:31:10 2023 

elogd checks for the "scripts/ckeditor/ckeditor.js" file to detect the presence of CKeditor.

James Smallcombe wrote:

I wanted to change some CKeditor settings so tried modifying elog/scripts/ckeditor to no avail.

I wiped elog/scripts/ and dropped a fresh download of CKeditor4, with only the basic extensions. But when I open the elog it still shows the full toolbar, with elog default style and with all extensions operational.

If I leave elog/scripts empty, I get "CKeditor NOT detected" when starting elogd and the HTML option is empty and shows nothing, all as expected.

Does anyone understand this? Is there some CKeditor configuration file elog is defering to that I've overlooked? I have tried system wide seaches just in case.

 

    icon2.gif   Re: CKeditor Settings Cant Be Changed , posted by James Smallcombe on Thu Feb 2 10:13:19 2023 

So it was just a clearing cache issue. elogd was telling the browser to use/not use CKeditor based on the aformentioned, and browser was then using the cached version. Fixed now.

And FYI for anyone who reads this when trying to modify CKeditor themselves, it seems elog needs the iFrame Editing Area plugin included.

Stefan Ritt wrote:

elogd checks for the "scripts/ckeditor/ckeditor.js" file to detect the presence of CKeditor.

James Smallcombe wrote:

I wanted to change some CKeditor settings so tried modifying elog/scripts/ckeditor to no avail.

I wiped elog/scripts/ and dropped a fresh download of CKeditor4, with only the basic extensions. But when I open the elog it still shows the full toolbar, with elog default style and with all extensions operational.

If I leave elog/scripts empty, I get "CKeditor NOT detected" when starting elogd and the HTML option is empty and shows nothing, all as expected.

Does anyone understand this? Is there some CKeditor configuration file elog is defering to that I've overlooked? I have tried system wide seaches just in case.

 

 

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