> > elogd is spewing these messages about unknown cookies:
> > 
> > Received unknown cookie "is_returning"
> > Received unknown cookie "__utma"
> > Received unknown cookie "__utmz"
> > Received unknown cookie "SSESSee3cc9c70bedf9a840203765bf409d7b"
> > Received unknown cookie "SESSee3cc9c70bedf9a840203765bf409d7b"
> > Received unknown cookie "MidasWikiUserID"
> > Received unknown cookie "MidasWikiUserName"
> > Received unknown cookie "MidasWiki_session"
> > 
> > K.O.
> 
> Delete your cookies ;-)
> 

No, go. The MidasWikiUserName cookie will log me out of the MidasWiki, etc.

But why are MidasWiki cookies sent to the elog? Ah, yes, they all run from the same https://midas.triumf.ca.

This explains why elog complains about unexpected cookies - elogd does not expect to receive
mediawiki cookies - it does not expect to share the https:// connection with somebody else.

This is good to know for the future. (I.e. if mediawiki is confused by elogd cookies).

K.O.

> elogd is spewing these messages about unknown cookies:
> 
> Received unknown cookie "is_returning"
> Received unknown cookie "__utma"
> Received unknown cookie "__utmz"
> Received unknown cookie "SSESSee3cc9c70bedf9a840203765bf409d7b"
> Received unknown cookie "SESSee3cc9c70bedf9a840203765bf409d7b"
> Received unknown cookie "MidasWikiUserID"
> Received unknown cookie "MidasWikiUserName"
> Received unknown cookie "MidasWiki_session"
> 
> K.O.

Delete your cookies ;-)

Elog just logs all unknown cookies for trouble shooting. This should go under verbose output. I changed that just now.

Stefan

> > this elog offers me to edit a draft message, then yells at me "only some other user can edit this draft!!!".
> > methinks I should only be offered to edit draft messages that I own or I can edit. K.O.
> I find it odd that I can see someone elses draft, but never one that I am in the middle of composing (using a
> different tab of the browser) in the elog listing.  There's one such draft Konstantin refers to in the logbook
> listings now - last one was dark blue, this one a pink background, is there a reason for these different colours?

I just tried that on the "Demo" logbook and could see my own draft entry (which appears pink) in a second tab.

Dark blue means you have not updated the default.css file properly from the current distribution.

Stefan

The size is defined by the variable MAX_CONTENT_LENGTH in elogd.c which is set to 10 MB. But email attachments are encoded in ASCII form, so they take useually 3-4 times the space of the binary format. If you have problems with large emails, you can use the option "Email Format = 111" which causes only the names of attachments to be included in email notifications. Users can then still click on the elog link inside the email notification and download the attachment from the elog page.

> > elogd 3.1.0 moves all elog entries into year-named subdirectories. this feature makes it incompatible with older elogs and so should be clearly mentioned in the documentation,
> > in the release announcement and in the release and migration notes. K.O.
> 
> But yes, the release documentation by bitbucket is not really that useful: 
> it is difficult for me too, to find out what changed with new releases. 

I did know that I've read it summarized somewhere!
The changes with the different releases are documented here:
http://midas.psi.ch/elog/download/ChangeLog

It is actually not so difficult to find: 
it is linked on the "Download" section http://midas.psi.ch/elog/download.html

"News for each version can be seen in the changelog (->http://midas.psi.ch/elog/download/ChangeLog)"

And for version 3.0.0 it states:
- Create one logbook subdirectory pear year

I admit that version 3.0 has never been announced and the changelog is not mentioned in the announcement of version 3.1.0
Maybe we'll do better in the future ;-)

I had no intention of causing any offence with my lazy archiving comment - hope I didn't, sorry if I did.

Personally, I would have found it useful to put the attachments into a separate directory - or at least to allow

the possibility. Elog as it stands sometimes can, and sometimes cannot cope with that functionality - and even to try means messing around directly with the

yymmdda.log files. For me it would have saved me having duplicates of the same large attachment in two or three different logbooks, if I could always reference

the same Master copy of the attachment. This was at the time I was severely memory constrained, and in part forced me to change how I had operated elog, so for

me that need isn't as great as it once was.

David.

You can put a reference to the attachment of the other entry in your logbook: elog:67896/1

> this elog offers me to edit a draft message, then yells at me "only some other user can edit this draft!!!".
> methinks I should only be offered to edit draft messages that I own or I can edit. K.O.
I find it odd that I can see someone elses draft, but never one that I am in the middle of composing (using a
different tab of the browser) in the elog listing.  There's one such draft Konstantin refers to in the logbook
listings now - last one was dark blue, this one a pink background, is there a reason for these different colours?

> > Stefan told me that the change was because some users were having thousands of yymmdda.log files
> > in the logbook directories
> 
> I am one of those users. The elog for the ALPHA experiment at CERN goes back to 2006 or so,
> with large volume of messages and huge number of attachments. The MIDAS forum elog goes back to 2003.
> The TRIUMF DAQ internal elog goes back to 2001.
> 
> I think the new organization is an improvement.
> 
> K.O.
Hi Konstantin,

I've used elog as my main reference/logbook since 2005.  I had looked at it in its version 1 incarnation, but
didn't get on with that so well.  

My biggest problem in the past was running elog on two physically separated linux boxes, and for complex reasons
all the logbooks were on a memory stick (plus the vital backup)!  Hence my previously mentioned memory issues - in
my case the size of the available memory sticks.
David.