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  1092   Fri Apr 15 21:31:26 2005 Reply Michael Husbynmichaelh@online.noQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
> I implemented this, but found some problems. If I encode the subject like
> 
> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ורז?=
> 
> it displays well unde MS Outlook, but not under Mozilla Thunderbird or pine,
> which both display the full text (including the ISO...). So it looks like
> there is no single solution which satisfies all mail programs. It should at
> least work for Outlook and Thunderbird, so if anyone has an idea please let me
> know.

If I read the RFC correctly when you use B encoding you are using BASE64 encoding.
Maybe that could be a solution?

Best regards
Michael
  1091   Fri Apr 15 21:14:05 2005 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux2.5.6-1Re: MIME encoding of mail?
> Subject: Testing ורז
> 
> Becomes
> Subject: IKT sak =?UNKNOWN?B?KDYwKTo=?= Testing =?UNKNOWN?B?5fjm?=
> 
> config:
> Use Email Subject = IKT sak ($message id): $Tittel

You could put the encoding there manually:

Use Email Subject = =?ISO-8859-1?Q?IKT sak ($message id): $Tittel?=

would this work?
  1090   Fri Apr 15 21:10:27 2005 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
I implemented this, but found some problems. If I encode the subject like

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ורז?=

it displays well unde MS Outlook, but not under Mozilla Thunderbird or pine,
which both display the full text (including the ISO...). So it looks like
there is no single solution which satisfies all mail programs. It should at
least work for Outlook and Thunderbird, so if anyone has an idea please let me
know.
  1089   Fri Apr 15 15:57:53 2005 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
Ok, I found it. It's in RFC2047 at

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2047.html

I will try to implement it.
  1088   Fri Apr 15 15:25:30 2005 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
So you tell me that the message body is ok with Norwegian characters, it's only the subject?
That would mean that outlook interpretes the charset only for the message body, but not for
the subject. So if you have characters with an ASCII value greater than 127, your mail
program requires to enclose it into

=?<charset>?B?+<text>?=

Do you know that the "B" is for? I would not like to "blindly" do whatever Mutt does, I
would like to understand it. If someone can point me to a document which describes this
properly, I could implement it.
  1087   Fri Apr 15 15:12:55 2005 Reply Michael Husbynmichaelh@online.noQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
> > What I can see is that it sends with charset=US-ASCII, even if the characters are
> > non-US.
> 
> That's the key point. I changed it such that elog uses now the charset defined in the
> configuration file, now it should work fine. Can you give it a try? The new version is
> under CVS.

Tried it now, using the same charset I get when sending email from Mutt: (this is right)
Subject: Testing =?iso-8859-1?B?+Obl?=
To: michael.husbyn@.........
Message-id: <20050415125415.GA30539@njord........>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
Content-disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i

When sending from Elog with the same subject (from the same server):
Subject: IKT sak =?UNKNOWN?B?KDExMCk6?= Testing =?UNKNOWN?B?+Obl?=
To: Michael.Husbyn@............
Message-id: <200504151304.j3FD4aKP006491@njord..................>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Elog, Version 2.5.8-3
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
X-Elog-URL: http://njord................:8090/ikt/110
X-Elog-submit-type: web|elog


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So the subject needs some change. In my example I left out what Elog inserts before
the subject I put in Elog.

Just for the fun, changed my old subject (in elog) to the one Mutt formatted it to:
Testing =?iso-8859-1?B?+Obl?=

And then I get what I want... ;)


Best regards
Michael Husbyn
  1086   Thu Apr 14 15:42:44 2005 Reply Stefan Rittstefan.ritt@psi.chQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
> What I can see is that it sends with charset=US-ASCII, even if the characters are
> non-US.

That's the key point. I changed it such that elog uses now the charset defined in the
configuration file, now it should work fine. Can you give it a try? The new version is
under CVS.
  1085   Thu Apr 14 15:07:18 2005 Reply Michael Husbynmichaelh@online.noQuestionLinux2.5.8-3Re: MIME encoding of mail?
> What you can try is to debug the communication between elogd and the SMTP
> server. Just turn on logging via
> 
> Logfile = log.txt
> Logging level = 3
> 
> After sending email, you see the conversation in log.txt. Maybe this gives you
> some hints.


I run with loggin level = 6:
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} Email from elog@..... to
Michael.Husbyn@.....,, SMTP host smtp......:
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 220 backup...... ESMTP Sendmail
8.12.11/8.12.11; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:59:18 +0200
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt}
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} HELO njord......
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 250 backup...... Hello njord......
[10.138.224.221], pleased to meet you
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} MAIL FROM: elog@.....
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 250 2.1.0 elog@........ Sender ok
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} RCPT TO: <Michael.Husbyn@.....>
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 250 2.1.5 <Michael.Husbyn@.....>... Recipient ok
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} DATA
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} To: Michael.Husbyn@.....,
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} From: elog@.....
Subject: IKT sak (110): Testing רזו
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} X-Mailer: Elog, Version 2.5.8-3
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} X-Elog-URL: http://njord......:8090/ikt/110
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} X-Elog-submit-type: web|elog
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:50:16 +0200
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} .
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 250 2.0.0 j3ECxI8e003851 Message accepted for
delivery
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} QUIT
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} 221 2.0.0 backup...... closing connection
14-Apr-2005 14:50:16 [pc-0460] {ikt} READ entry #110

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Sorry for the late reply btw, I've removed some information in the log (server names)

What I can see is that it sends with charset=US-ASCII, even if the characters are
non-US.

Only outlooks have problem with understanding if the subject is not mime encoded.

Ideas?

Best regards
Michael Husbyn
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