The DRS4 has an internal storage of 1024 capacitors. They work as a ring buffer, so at 5GSPS you can store 200ns wide signals. After 200ns, the first samples are overwritten by new samples, so you always have the last 200ns of samples stored. Once you trigger the DRS4, this buffer is frozen, and the readout of this buffer causes the dead time. No trigger, no dead time. Hope this answers your question.

Stefan

Helo
I'm building an application for reading waveforms from the DRS4 board to PC. However, I am having problems reading calibration data from EEPROM on DRS4 board. The calibration data is read through the function reference:
void DRSBoard :: ReadCalibration (void)
...
      ReadEEPROM (1, buf, 1024 * 32);
      for (i = 0; i <8; i ++)
         for (j = 0; j <1024; j ++) {
            fCellOffset [i] [j] = buf [(i * 1024 + j) * 2];
            fCellGain [i] [j] = buf [(i * 1024 + j) * 2 + 1] / 65535.0*0.4+0.7;
         }
      
      ReadEEPROM (2, buf, 1024 * 32);
      for (i = 0; i <8; i ++)
         for (j = 0; j <1024; j ++)
            fCellOffset2 [i] [j] = buf [(i * 1024 + j) * 2];
...
The Calibrate Waveform is performed by:
int DRSBoard::CalibrateWaveform(unsigned int chipIndex, unsigned char channel, unsigned short *adcWaveform, short *waveform, bool responseCalib, int triggerCell, bool adjustToClock, float threshold, bool offsetCalib)
.....
         for (j = 0; j < n_bins; j++) {
            value = adcWaveform[j] - fCellOffset[channel+chipIndex*9][(j*skip + triggerCell) % kNumberOfBins];
            value = value / fCellGain[channel+chipIndex*9][(j*skip + triggerCell) % kNumberOfBins];
            if (offsetCalib && channel != 8)
               value = value - fCellOffset2[channel+chipIndex*9][j*skip] + 32768;
...
. Because the calibration data reads incorrectly, the Calibrate Waveform does not do it.
Can read calibration data from EEPROM by any command via Oscilloscope application or DRS Command Line Interface application?
Thank you for your help!!!!

You don't have to read and calibrate the waveforms in your user code, but can rely on the DRS.cpp library to do that. Just look at the drs_exam.cpp program coming with the distribution. It uses the function b->GetWave() to retrieve the calibrated waveform. If you like, you can look into that function to learn how to apply the calibration, but I can tell you that it's a bit complicated. Since each event starts at an arbitrary stop cell in the DRS4, you have to "rotate" the calibration array. Then you do actually four calibrations in a row (cell, readout, gain and range).

Stefan

Hi,

we were trying to implement an automatic way to calibrate our DRS4 both in voltage and in time (we have the V5 Evaluation Board). We started from drs_exam.cpp and tried with the following lines:

/* set input range to -0.5V ... +0.5V */

b->SetInputRange(0);

b->CalibrateVolt(NULL);
b->CalibrateTiming(NULL);

While the timing calibration seems to work (we checked with drsosc executable), the voltage calibration in our test program seems not to do the same as in drsosc when pressing the button "Execute Voltage Calibration". Specifically we think that no primary calibration, secondary calibration or spike removal is applied when calling CalibrateVolt(). It seems that the methods to perform those tasks are implemented in Osci.ccp/Osci.h, but drs_exam.cpp uses objects of the class DRS (i.e. defined in DRS.cpp and DRS.h).

Is there a way to execute the voltage calibration in drs_exam.cpp in the same way performed within drsosc?

Cheers,

Alessio

Hello everyone, 

The new read_binary.cpp code 

I will be very glad if anyone can help with the old version of read_binary.cpp code. The latest version I saw online was updated on June 30th, 2014, but I need the old version of the code to compare what changes were made in the latest version. This will help me to modify it and be able to read my data successfully. Thanks

On the software download page at https://www.psi.ch/drs/software-download you find a link to all versions of the DRS software, which is located at: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/clqo7ekr0ysbrip/AACoWJzrQAbf3WiBJHG89bGGa?dl=0

Earch .tar.gz file has a date, which should help you find the correct version.

Hi, 

I would like to save the waveform in a .dat binary file using drs_exam.cpp.

I know the distributed software allows us to save as binary files with the save button, but I currently need to save multiple runs using a script.

I've seen that drs_exam.cpp can save the waveform as .txt files.

Is there any .cpp file or function that allows us to save the waveforms in binary format (.dat)?

Thank you for your help. 

You have to write the C/C++ code yourself to write data in binary or any other format. All information is present after the waveform readout in drs_exam.cpp, so it's just a matter of proper write() functions. Please consult any C/C++ handbook on how to write to files.

Hi,

we modified drs_exam.cpp to read all 4 channels from the DRS4 and apply directly the spike removal (taken from Osci.cpp) during the acquisition phase. For test purposes, we don't save the data showing spikes and we focus on the data not having spikes (even if at the end we end up having triple and quadro spikes which are not removed by the spike removal routine, but they are rare). With this modified program we wanted to characterize the noise of the DRS4, so we took 30000 events at 5GSPS, triggering on channel 1 with a 10 MHz sine wave with 100 mV_pp (trigger level set at 10 mV), while channels 2,3 and 4 were left open without any input.

We then took a look at the data and plotted the noise histograms for channels 2,3 and 4, which you can find attached (without offset correction, named zero_peak_after_spike_removal_ch*.png). For completeness, we also attached the plot from ch1 (the sine wave). The selections in time and amplitude we applied had the goal to remove the high oscillations in amplitude occurring in the first and last samples and to discard the quadro spikes we had in the data.

We see that there is a peak at 0 mV in all histograms from all channels and scanning through the data, we saw that indeed the value 0 mV is stored many times for each event, thus originating the peak we see in the histograms. We also applied an offset correction to the data (taking the average of the first three most occuring amplitudes) of channels 2 (as an example) and the problem seems to be only partially removed.

We also noticed that this peak at 0 mV is present also when we acquired the data from the DRS4 with DRSosc saving the data in binary format.

So we had the following questions:

- why is the DRS4 saving so many times the value 0 mV (exactly 0 mV)?

- is there any way (in our case through software, preferably at acquisition time) to solve this problem?

Thank you for the help and best regards,

Alessio & Davide

I note that your peak at zero is exactly twice as high as the bins left and right, so this looks to me like a binning problem in your histogramming. Maybe your bin #0 goes from -1mV to +1mV, which all other bins are just 1mW wide. Can you check that?

Stefan

Hi,

thank you for the quick reply. All the bins in the previous histograms have the same width. We also tried to plot the noise histogram for channel 2 with more bins (i.e. 1000, so that we can see almost discrete values), and the peak is still there.

Alessio & Davide

I tried the following:

- trigger on a 10 MHz sine wave on CH0, CH1 was open

- run drs_exam.cpp program and write data.txt with a few events

- imported the event into Excel

- did a histogram on (empty) CH1

What I see is a nice Gaussian distribution centered around 1mV, but with no spike around zero. See attachment. So I still believe that you have either a binning or a rounding problem. Like you round value -0.99 to +0.99 all to zero mV, and 1.00 to 1.99 mV to one mV.

Stefan

Have you set the sampling frequency 

b->SetFrequency(5, true);

before the calibration?

Note there is also the "drscl" program, which is a ocmmand linke interface to the evaluation board. Start it, and do the calibration there:

then look at the code in drscl.cpp (around line 1097).

/Stefan

And here is the second part of your answer: When you change the input range, you have to redo the voltage calibration. Best is if you do that in the DRSOsc program, then you see that it's working. Then start your custom program and use the same range.

Stefan

Hi Stefan:

  I'm still confused that althought the 8 bits buffer is enough,the FPGA receive the command through the uc_data_i register which is 16 bits wides.As we can see in the firmware, the locbus_addr is 32 bits wides. Does it means the locbus_addr[31:8] are always '0' because the address in buffer is only 8 bits. Does it means the usrbus_status_sel and usrbus_ram_sel are also '0' all the time .

thanks!

chen

The locbus_addr is indeed 32 bits wide, since the firmware was originally derived from some firmware running in a VME crate, and the VME bus has 32 bits or addressing. So you will still find some "historic" remnants from that era. In the USB firmware, lcobus_addr[32:8] is always zero. Sorry for the confusuion.

Stefan

Hi Stefan,

following your example, we tried to perform the same measurement, using drs_exam and taking 1000 events. The results we obtained are in the plots attached (both in log and linear scale). We tried two different binnings:

    - the first is the same as the one used in your example, that is 0.1 mV (corresponding to the plots having 81 bins)

    - the second is a more wide binning equal to 0.35 mV, that is (2^(-11.5)) mV, 11.5 being the effective number of bits given in the DRS4 spreadsheet (corresponding to the plots having 23 bins)

With the fine binning we see that in the bin centered around 0 there is a little excess of events (the effect is more visible in the log scale histograms). This excess is not present in the wide binning case.

Is the problem we had before (and also here in the fine binning case) lying in the fact that we were trying to have bins with a width smaller than the effective resolution of the instrument (0.35 mV)?

We also noticed that in drs_exam, the values for the waveform are printed in the ASCII file with 1 digit after the decimal point, but when trying to print more digits the resolution is not improved (i.e. the decimal digits from the second one on are 0). This means that the values are rounded to a resolution of 0.1 mV when they are saved through the GetWave() routine (and in fact the member fPrecision is set to 0.1 -mV- in DRS.cpp, line 7502, and also in DRS.h, line 757, GetPrecision() returns 0.1). Why is that so? How does it reconcile with the effective number of bits giving a resolution of 0.35 mV?

Thank you,

Alessio & Davide

The DRS chip is read out with a 12 bit ADC, thus the phyical resolution is roughly 1V/4096 = 0.24 mV. I say roughly since the DRS has an analog gain of 0.98, which is corrected for. Now you have integer values which are converted into floating point numbers my multiplying them with ~0.24mV. If you then do histogramming with different bin sizes such as 0.1 mV and 0.35 mV , you get aliasing effects. The code truncates the result to 0.1 mV, which can give you also rounding artifacts. You will probalby see the same if you generate random 12 bit values and do the same histogramming. The 0.35 mV are not the RESOLUTION of the board (this is 0.24 mV as written above), but the Signal-To-Noise ratio of the DRS chip. If you measure zero volts at the input, and you make statistics over the distribution, you get an RMS of 0.35 mV.

Stefan

Dear All,

I'm troubleshooting a board which uses the DRS4 and adopts an analog front end very similar to the evaluation board. As a result, we rely on the eval board as a reference. In doing so we've encountered an issue in the manual:

The high resolution photo in Figure 1. is useful, but it seems to correspond to an older version of the board. For instance, the RF switch can't correspond to the schematics of Rev5.1 in the appendix.

Request: Could the manual be updated with a high resolution image of Rev5.1. Also, could a high resolution of the bottom side of the board be included in the manual? This is desirable since it has the version number and contact information, so it will remove any ambiguity about what board you're looking at and what schematics you should refer to.

A second question, which might be overly broad: what is the impact of installing the optional components (marked * in the schematics) on the analog front end? Why are a lot of these left uninstalled on the eval board?

Thanks,

Sean

I updated the picture in the manual with a current picture of a Rev5.1 board, and also added a picture of the bottom side. If you need a picture without the blue labels, have a look at https://www.psi.ch/drs/old-evaluation-boards at the bottom.

Here is the explanation of the optional components:

- R1, C2, R6, R29, R30 and same components for other channels: Normally the board is AC-coupled. You can make the board DC-coupled by briding C1, C9, C13, removing R6, C2, adding R1, adding R29, removing R30. The CAL signal then enters before the THS4508. We found that DC coupling gives slightly higher noise and is prone to high input DC levels, so we ship the board usually AC-coupled.

- R84 & Co. defines the hysteresis of the trigger comparators as described in the schematics

- R99-R106, R143: If soldered, the board is configured in cascading mode with 4 channels @ 2048 bins. R143 tells the FPGA that we are in this mode, so the firmware can correctly configure the DRS4

- R118 & Co. defines the MCX output level to be either 3.3V or 5V (default)

- R146-R149 connect JTAG to the uC. We planned at one point to make firmware upgrades through USB, but we never implemented that, so these resistors are not soldered.

I hope I covered everything. If I overlooked any optional component please tell me.

Cheers,
Stefan