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  636   Fri Nov 3 12:11:14 2017 Håkan WennlöfTriggering using AND

Hi!

I'm using the DRSOsc program, and I have a question that I need a bit clarified;

When triggering using AND between two channels, am I then triggering on rising/falling edge of both channels, or on the actual values?

That is, is it the change in value that it triggers on, or when the actual value goes above a certain threshold?

Using AND, it seems like I get a trigger when one (CH2) is above its trigger value (sometimes quite far above), and the other (CH1) changes to go above its trigger value. This works for my purposes, which is nice, but I just want to be sure I understand why it works. Ideally, I'd like to trigger when one of my channels is above a certain value, and the other has a rising edge above a certain value.

I'm sorry if it's a silly question! I've just noticed that the Keysight oscilloscopes I've used can only do one channel with a rising edge at a time when doing a logic trigger, and I thought the same thing might be going on in the background here (which would be ideal for my purposes).

 

Kind regards,

Håkan Wennlöf

  635   Wed Oct 18 11:48:14 2017 Vadym DenysenkoTime offset

Thank you for your reply!

Stefan Ritt wrote:

No this is not possible. But you can delay your signal externally (like with a delay cable or electronically) and then send the dealyed signal to the evaluation board for triggering.

Stefan

Vadym Denysenko wrote:

Hello.

 

I have a simple question, can I set SetTriggerDelayNs() more than 1631 ns?

I need to set this delay to about 5 us... Can I do this? 

 

Thank you in advance! 

 

With best regards, 

Vadym

 

 

  634   Wed Oct 18 09:12:26 2017 Stefan RittTime offset

No this is not possible. But you can delay your signal externally (like with a delay cable or electronically) and then send the dealyed signal to the evaluation board for triggering.

Stefan

Vadym Denysenko wrote:

Hello.

 

I have a simple question, can I set SetTriggerDelayNs() more than 1631 ns?

I need to set this delay to about 5 us... Can I do this? 

 

Thank you in advance! 

 

With best regards, 

Vadym

 

  633   Tue Oct 17 14:58:58 2017 Vadym DenysenkoTime offset

Hello.

 

I have a simple question, can I set SetTriggerDelayNs() more than 1631 ns?

I need to set this delay to about 5 us... Can I do this? 

 

Thank you in advance! 

 

With best regards, 

Vadym

  632   Mon Oct 16 15:35:22 2017 Stefan RittRaspberry Pi Connection Failure

Have you tried as root? Maybe you miss some permissions.

Stefan

Jonathan Wapman wrote:

I am currently attempting to use a raspberry pi to connect to the DRS 4 board. I whenever I try to use the DRS Command Line TOol, Revision 21435 to connect to the drs board, I get the error

"musb_open: libusb_open() error -3"

"USB successfully scanned, but no boards found"

"No DRS Boards Found".

I successfully compiled the libusb driver before compiling the drs software 5.0.6, and installed all other listed packages in the install instructions.

 

  631   Fri Oct 13 03:39:01 2017 Jonathan WapmanRaspberry Pi Connection Failure

I am currently attempting to use a raspberry pi to connect to the DRS 4 board. I whenever I try to use the DRS Command Line TOol, Revision 21435 to connect to the drs board, I get the error

"musb_open: libusb_open() error -3"

"USB successfully scanned, but no boards found"

"No DRS Boards Found".

I successfully compiled the libusb driver before compiling the drs software 5.0.6, and installed all other listed packages in the install instructions.

  630   Mon Oct 2 16:08:05 2017 Stefan RittEvent acquisition pace for irregular timing

As written in the documentation, the DRS evaluaiton board has a maximum trigger capability of ~500 Hz. This is limited by the USB bus which has a finite data transfer rate. If you build your own electronics around the chip (like many other groups are doing), you can squeeze this to a few kHz, but it is some development effort.

Stefan

Yoni Sher wrote:

Hi, 

I'm running a LIDAR application that requires that every outgoing pulse be captured. My current setup firess sets of 20-50 pulses at 1 ms intervals, about 10 times a second, but only 10-20 pulses a second are captured. 

When I fire at full speed (1KHz - one pulse every ms), about 500-600 pulses a second are captured. 

At the moment, I'm triggering on channel 1 and captureing the data on channel 2. Would it help if I used the external trigger? Is there anything else I can do?

 

Yoni

 

  629   Wed Sep 27 16:11:03 2017 Yoni SherEvent acquisition pace for irregular timing

Hi, 

I'm running a LIDAR application that requires that every outgoing pulse be captured. My current setup firess sets of 20-50 pulses at 1 ms intervals, about 10 times a second, but only 10-20 pulses a second are captured. 

When I fire at full speed (1KHz - one pulse every ms), about 500-600 pulses a second are captured. 

At the moment, I'm triggering on channel 1 and captureing the data on channel 2. Would it help if I used the external trigger? Is there anything else I can do?

 

Yoni

  628   Sun Aug 27 12:44:16 2017 Yuvaraj ElangovanDRS4 version Support

Hi i am using DRS4 Eval Board V2, How to acquire data to a bin file using it.    

  627   Tue Jul 25 14:47:05 2017 Volodymyr RodinTime output

Hi again.

Okay, it works with 5.05 version very good and it is enough for me.

Besides,

What do I need to fix in this code for 2048 board?

Best wishes,

Volodymyr

Volodymyr Rodin wrote:

Hello Stefan

I tried to convert binary to a simple txt file and found next problem - strange time output.

Here is output from little modification for read_binary.cpp (Its last output line also is strange: dT = -1.#IOns +- -1.$ps)

Found data for board #0
Found timing calibration for channel #1
Found boards#  1
     event    channel   waveform       time      point
         1          0  -0.000092   0.000000          0
         1          0   0.030548   0.000000          1
         1          0   0.059418   0.000000          2
         1          0   0.080200   0.000000          3
         1          0   0.094223   0.000000          4
         1          0   0.097702   0.000000          5
         1          0   0.094055   0.000000          6
         1          0   0.079117   0.000000          7
         1          0   0.060364   0.000000          8
         1          0   0.030960   0.000000          9
         1          0   0.000504   0.000000         10
         1          0  -0.031555   0.000000         11
         1          0  -0.057465   0.000000         12
         1          0  -0.080536   0.000000         13
         1          0  -0.095413   0.000000         14
         1          0  -0.099365   0.000000         15

I used output string in the following places, but it didn't help:

// reach channel data

:for (i=0 ; i<1024 ; i++) {
               // convert data to volts
               waveform[0][chn_index][i] = (voltage[i] / 65536. + eh.range/1000.0 - 0.5);
               // calculate time for this cell
               for (j=0,time[b][chn_index][i]=0 ; j<i ; j++)
                  time[b][chn_index][i] += bin_width[b][chn_index][(j+tch.trigger_cell) % 1024];

printf("%10d %10d %10f %10f %10d\n", eh.event_serial_number , chn_index , waveform[0][chn_index][i]  ,  time[0][chn_index][i]  , i);

And after alignment procedure:

t1 = time[b][0][(1024-tch.trigger_cell) % 1024];
         for (chn=1 ; chn<4 ; chn++) {
            t2 = time[b][chn][(1024-tch.trigger_cell) % 1024];
            dt = t1 - t2;
            for (i=0 ; i<1024 ; i++)
               time[b][chn][i] += dt;

printf("%10d %10d %10f %10f %10d\n", eh.event_serial_number , chn_index , waveform[0][chn_index][i]  ,  time[0][chn][i]  , i);
         }

Does it caused by some software or drivers changes?

Best regards,

Volodymyr

 

 

 

 

 

  626   Fri Jul 21 09:16:02 2017 Volodymyr RodinTime output

Hello Stefan

I tried to convert binary to a simple txt file and found next problem - strange time output.

Here is output from little modification for read_binary.cpp (Its last output line also is strange: dT = -1.#IOns +- -1.$ps)

Found data for board #0
Found timing calibration for channel #1
Found boards#  1
     event    channel   waveform       time      point
         1          0  -0.000092   0.000000          0
         1          0   0.030548   0.000000          1
         1          0   0.059418   0.000000          2
         1          0   0.080200   0.000000          3
         1          0   0.094223   0.000000          4
         1          0   0.097702   0.000000          5
         1          0   0.094055   0.000000          6
         1          0   0.079117   0.000000          7
         1          0   0.060364   0.000000          8
         1          0   0.030960   0.000000          9
         1          0   0.000504   0.000000         10
         1          0  -0.031555   0.000000         11
         1          0  -0.057465   0.000000         12
         1          0  -0.080536   0.000000         13
         1          0  -0.095413   0.000000         14
         1          0  -0.099365   0.000000         15

I used output string in the following places, but it didn't help:

// reach channel data

:for (i=0 ; i<1024 ; i++) {
               // convert data to volts
               waveform[0][chn_index][i] = (voltage[i] / 65536. + eh.range/1000.0 - 0.5);
               // calculate time for this cell
               for (j=0,time[b][chn_index][i]=0 ; j<i ; j++)
                  time[b][chn_index][i] += bin_width[b][chn_index][(j+tch.trigger_cell) % 1024];

printf("%10d %10d %10f %10f %10d\n", eh.event_serial_number , chn_index , waveform[0][chn_index][i]  ,  time[0][chn_index][i]  , i);

And after alignment procedure:

t1 = time[b][0][(1024-tch.trigger_cell) % 1024];
         for (chn=1 ; chn<4 ; chn++) {
            t2 = time[b][chn][(1024-tch.trigger_cell) % 1024];
            dt = t1 - t2;
            for (i=0 ; i<1024 ; i++)
               time[b][chn][i] += dt;

printf("%10d %10d %10f %10f %10d\n", eh.event_serial_number , chn_index , waveform[0][chn_index][i]  ,  time[0][chn][i]  , i);
         }

Does it caused by some software or drivers changes?

Best regards,

Volodymyr

 

 

 

 

  625   Thu Jul 20 13:00:44 2017 Volodymyr RodinDriver installation on Windows 10

Dear Laura

You need to disable driver signature enforcement.  Then try again with path option.

 It helped me.

http://www.drivethelife.com/windows-drivers/how-to-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-on-windows-10-8-7-xp-vista.html

Best regards,

Volodymyr

Laura Gonella wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to get a DRS4 board to run on Windows 10. I am having problems with the driver installation. I am getting the follwoing message

"There is no driver selected for the device information set or element"

I had specified the path to look for the driver as C:\ProgramFilesx86\DRS\driver\. I also tried the option to look online for the driver. None works. Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Laura

 

  624   Wed Jul 12 20:16:05 2017 Stefan RittTime resolution between boards

Yes this should  be possible.

Stefan

Toshihiro Nonaka wrote:

Hello,

I 'm using four evaluation boards v.3 to construct the multi-board DAQ system. One channel for each board is used as reference clock, then calibrate timing offline, which allow below 10ps resolution between boards.

Is it possible to keep the time resolution between boards below 10ps in daisy-chain mode with v.5 boards?

Thank you in adcance.

Best regards,

Toshihiro Nonaka

 

  623   Wed Jul 12 04:24:39 2017 Toshihiro NonakaTime resolution between boards

Hello,

I 'm using four evaluation boards v.3 to construct the multi-board DAQ system. One channel for each board is used as reference clock, then calibrate timing offline, which allow below 10ps resolution between boards.

Is it possible to keep the time resolution between boards below 10ps in daisy-chain mode with v.5 boards?

Thank you in adcance.

Best regards,

Toshihiro Nonaka

  622   Fri Jul 7 10:31:47 2017 Stefan RittTrigger setting (AND AND) OR (AND AND)

Unfortunately not with the current firmware.

Stefan

Esperienza Giove wrote:

Hello there,

is it possible to setup trigger in double AND configuration (a pair in and or other pair in and). 

eg (CH 1 AND CH 2 ) OR ( CH 3 AND CH4)

Thank you

 

  621   Thu Jul 6 15:10:48 2017 Esperienza GioveTrigger setting (AND AND) OR (AND AND)

Hello there,

is it possible to setup trigger in double AND configuration (a pair in and or other pair in and). 

eg (CH 1 AND CH 2 ) OR ( CH 3 AND CH4)

Thank you

  620   Thu Jun 22 21:36:08 2017 Stefan RittAND Trigger problems with 2-3 channels

Hi,

from our screenshots I see the following:

- you have sometimes a huge oscillation in your preamplifier. Fix this first before doing any waveform recording

- your signals are barely 20 mV, and your trigger threshold is 20 mV. The coincidence only triggers when both signals are below the trigger threshold at the same time, and the overlap must be longer than 4-5 ns. So if your signals  are not exactly in time, you won't get a coincidence trigger

Stefan

 

Rebecca Schmitz wrote:

Hello,

It seems that a coincidence with two fixed channels suddenly works. I don't know why.

Screenshot 1 shows the trigger settings for the coincidence with two channels.
Screenshot 2 shows the oscilloscope surface.
Screenshot 3 shows the configuration. In the background there is a coincidence with three channels.

In contrast to the coincidence with two channels this doesn't look good.

Rebecca

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Can you post a screenshot where I can see the channel waveforms, the configuration and the trigger settings?

Stefan

Rebecca Schmitz wrote:

Hello,

I work with the DRS4 Evaluation Board V5 and I have a problem with the software.

I have a problem with the AND trigger setting.
For this I have chosen the AND trigger function. However, when ONE channel senses an impulse, it triggers. I'm not able to see signals in the other channels, which I selected for the coincidence.

What is the cause of this? Maybe the time window?

I would like to measure a coincidence with two or three random channels. Is it possible?

Thanks for the help.

Rebecca

 

 

 

  619   Fri Jun 16 17:34:20 2017 Laura GonellaDriver installation on Windows 10

Hello,

I am trying to get a DRS4 board to run on Windows 10. I am having problems with the driver installation. I am getting the follwoing message

"There is no driver selected for the device information set or element"

I had specified the path to look for the driver as C:\ProgramFilesx86\DRS\driver\. I also tried the option to look online for the driver. None works. Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Laura

  618   Fri Jun 9 09:44:33 2017 Rebecca SchmitzAND Trigger problems with 2-3 channels

Hello,

It seems that a coincidence with two fixed channels suddenly works. I don't know why.

Screenshot 1 shows the trigger settings for the coincidence with two channels.
Screenshot 2 shows the oscilloscope surface.
Screenshot 3 shows the configuration. In the background there is a coincidence with three channels.

In contrast to the coincidence with two channels this doesn't look good.

Rebecca

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Can you post a screenshot where I can see the channel waveforms, the configuration and the trigger settings?

Stefan

Rebecca Schmitz wrote:

Hello,

I work with the DRS4 Evaluation Board V5 and I have a problem with the software.

I have a problem with the AND trigger setting.
For this I have chosen the AND trigger function. However, when ONE channel senses an impulse, it triggers. I'm not able to see signals in the other channels, which I selected for the coincidence.

What is the cause of this? Maybe the time window?

I would like to measure a coincidence with two or three random channels. Is it possible?

Thanks for the help.

Rebecca

 

 

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  617   Thu Jun 8 15:52:20 2017 Stefan RittAND Trigger problems with 2-3 channels

Can you post a screenshot where I can see the channel waveforms, the configuration and the trigger settings?

Stefan

Rebecca Schmitz wrote:

Hello,

I work with the DRS4 Evaluation Board V5 and I have a problem with the software.

I have a problem with the AND trigger setting.
For this I have chosen the AND trigger function. However, when ONE channel senses an impulse, it triggers. I'm not able to see signals in the other channels, which I selected for the coincidence.

What is the cause of this? Maybe the time window?

I would like to measure a coincidence with two or three random channels. Is it possible?

Thanks for the help.

Rebecca

 

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