Hi,

Does anybody have program for conversion from binary or xml to cern ROOT *.root file?
 

Thank you for any help you can provide,
Luka Pavelic


 

You look here: elog:262

/Stefan

Thank you for your fast and very helpful replay.

I made it work with drsosc version 4 but with version 5 i am getting weird results. Is it possible that they changed binary formatting?

Yes, but this is documented in the evaluation board manual. You have to modify the script slightly. I will update it myself in about 2-3 weeks.

Cheers,

Stefan

 hi Stefan,can you update the code to convert binary to root for newest drsosc?Thanks.

See elog:361 

Please find attached a simple ROOT based program (http://root.cern.ch) to decode binary data from the DRSOsc program. It assumes that all four channels were recorded. If this is not the case, the program can be adjusted accordingly.

To use it, simply type (assuming that you have written a data file "test.dat" with DRSOsc):

root [0] .L decode.C+
Info in <TUnixSystem::ACLiC>: creating shared library /tmp/./decode_C.so
root [1] decode("test");
Info in <TCanvas::MakeDefCanvas>:  created default TCanvas with name c1
1927 events processed
"test.root" written
root [2] 

 

/Stefan

Stefan Ritt wrote:

Please find attached a simple ROOT based program (http://root.cern.ch) to decode binary data from the DRSOsc program. It assumes that all four channels were recorded. If this is not the case, the program can be adjusted accordingly. To use it, simply type (assuming that you have written a data file "test.dat" with DRSOsc): root [0] .L decode.C+ Info in <TUnixSystem::ACLiC>: creating shared library /tmp/./decode_C.so root [1] decode("test"); Info in <TCanvas::MakeDefCanvas>:  created default TCanvas with name c1 1927 events processed "test.root" written root [2]  If you have turned on the clock on channel4 of the DRS4 evaluation board, it will produce a plot like this:       /Stefan

I updated this ROOT program for the new format used with the V5 boards. It's now called "read_binary.C". Usage stays the same. There is also a standalone C program "read_binary.cpp". Both are attached. 

 Hello!

I have a question concerning the sampling speed of the DRS4 evaluation board.

It is written in the manual that the sampling speed of  DRS4 Evaluation Board is supported above 0.7 GHz.

However I was able to set the sampling speed to be 0.5 GHz with the function DRSBpard::SetFrequency(0.5)  and realized that DRSBoard::GetTime function fills time array in every 2 ns.

I am wondering if the data taken with 0.5 GHz sampling is reliable or not.

Best regards,

Tsutomu Nagayoshi

Hello,

Indeed you only need R99-R106 to be installed. Unfortunately the firm/software cannot know if the resistors are there, that's why we introduced R142/R143, which connect J44 of the FPGA optionally to low. So if J44 is low (R143 installed), this tells the system that we are in 2048 bin mode. Unfortunately you need firmware revision 21305 or later to support this bit, which you apparently do not have. So you can either upgrade the firmware (if you have a download cable) or "fake" the 2048 bin mode in software. Go to line 4345 of DRS.cpp and look for DRSBoard::Is2048ModeCapable(). This function just returns the status of this bit. If you installed R99-R106, you could modify this function to always return "1" instead of "0". Then the DRSOsc program will display 2048 bins for each of the four channels.

Best regards,

Stefan 

Dear DRS community,

starting from this year, we ship the new evaluation board V5. This board has an improved internal timing calibration, with which one can measure the time with a precision down to a few ps. Following picture shows the time between two pulses, obtained with a function generator, a passive split and a delay cable. The single threshold time estimator of the DRSOsc program obtains with such signal a resolution of 2.5 ps (RMS):

Using more sophisticated algorithms such as cross-correlation, resolutions below 1 ps were already achieved.

The new board can now be ordered at the same price than the V4 board, delivery will start in March 2014.

Best regards,
Stefan Ritt
 

The new software for the V5 evaluation board has been released today with following new features:

• Hardware scalers for all four channels and the trigger working up to 200 MHz. With the trigger scaler one can measure for example coincidence rates between two channels.
• New vertical and horizontal "slice" measurements. This allows to measure the amplitude of a signal at a certain time relative to the trigger point or the time when a signal crosses a certain level.
• Gated charge measurement allowing to measure the charge of a signal between two time markers, like an old-fashioned charge integrating ADC.

The software is available at the the usual location http://www.psi.ch/drs/software-download for Linux, Windows and Mac OSX. I'm working right now to get it also into the Apple App Store.

/Stefan

 Does it give the ability to measure triggering rate? I'm talking again about possibility of use DRS4 as pulse counter for PMT's. If yes, do I need new v5 board or it is possible to use v4 board?

Yes it is possible to measure the raw trigger rate, with a resolution of 10 Hz. You need a new V5 board for that. 

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. The trigger rate could be up to 200 MHz, and it's possible to measure it  with 10 Hz resolution. Is it right?

Does it possible to measure independent trigger rate for each channel?

I'm writing the drs_exam.cpp to use multi-boards(v3, firmware:4.0.0), and taking data succeeded. But I have several questions about function written in DRS.cpp.

1. I wrote following code in drs_exam.cpp to set input range -0.4~0.6

                                     b1->SetInputRange(0.1);

            And the 100mV offset appeared(I attached a picture). I think this is due to the voltage calibration isn't done.(Calibrated to -0.5~0.5mV in DRS Oscilloscope)

            If so, could you show me a simple usage of "CalibrationWaveform()" function in DRS.cpp? (or other function?)

       2. Although this question might be the almost same with above, is there any way to execute voltage and timing calibration in drs_exam.cpp?

           Now I start DAQ by executing drs_exam.cpp after I execute voltage and timing calibration to each board by DRS Oscilloscope program.

      3. Which command is right to use external trigger?

                                   b1->SetTriggerSource(4);   or  b1->SetTriggerSource(1<<4);

Best regards,

Toshihiro Nonaka

1. b->CalibrateVolt(NULL);

2. see 1.

3. For the V3 boards use b->SetTriggerSource(4), for V4 and V5 boards, use b->SetTriggerSource(1<<4). I had to change that because from V4 on we can have logical combinations between channels (like channel 1 AND channel 2).

Best regards,

Stefan 

Dear Stefan

I have two questions concerning the best time resolution with the DRS V5 eval board.
a) Calibration:
I am using 4 boards daisy chained. To achieve optimal time resolution I did first a voltage calibration and right afterwards a time calibration. For all 
boards after the master I am not sure how to do it.
After setting the flag "Configure multi-board daisy-chain" in the config menu, all the slave boards set the flag "use external reference clock".  By 
hitting the voltage calibration button, the slave boards unset this flag. Is it true, that I have to re-set this before doing the time-calibration right 
afterwards?


b) getting the right times in binary format:
To get the time out of the time width (i.e. the t_ch[i]) you sum up in your documentation from j=0 to j=i (see attachment). In your example code 
read_binary.cpp (line 113) you sum from j=0 to j=i-1. Since you get the the bin with in the binary file, I guess that the example code is correct one?

Thank you very much,
Cheers,
Roman

> a) Calibration:
> I am using 4 boards daisy chained. To achieve optimal time resolution I did first a voltage calibration and right afterwards a time calibration. For all 
> boards after the master I am not sure how to do it.
> After setting the flag "Configure multi-board daisy-chain" in the config menu, all the slave boards set the flag "use external reference clock".  By 
> hitting the voltage calibration button, the slave boards unset this flag. Is it true, that I have to re-set this before doing the time-calibration right 
> afterwards?

Please do NOT do any calibration in multi-board mode. This will not work. Calibrate the boards separately, then activate the multi-board mode. Please note that the timing between the boards is not better 
than ~50 ps. This is a limitation of the FPGA clock generators. If you need better timing, you have to feed an external clock into one channel of each board (leaving only 3 channels for DAQ). The upcoming 
WaveDREAM board will have 16 channels per board, so building bigger DAQ systems will be much easier (and more precise).

> b) getting the right times in binary format:
> To get the time out of the time width (i.e. the t_ch[i]) you sum up in your documentation from j=0 to j=i (see attachment). In your example code 
> read_binary.cpp (line 113) you sum from j=0 to j=i-1. Since you get the the bin with in the binary file, I guess that the example code is correct one?

Yes, I will correct the documentation.

Cheers,
Stefan

We see quite some spikes in our DRS4 sampled data in FACT.  We see different types of spikes:

• single cell spikes, usually showing a large amplitude of 200mV
• double cell spikes, usually only in the order of 20mV.
• Even triple and quadro cell spikes are rarely seen.

The double cell spikes often occur as symmetrical double cell spikes mirrored at cell 512. quadro cell spikes seem to be nothing else, than connected symmetrical double cell spikes. For the triple cell spikes we have no idea.
Currently we use simple filters to get rid of these spikes, this workes rather well for the large single cell spikes, but with the occurance of tripples and quadros we started to worry about higher multiples and revived our DRS4 spike investigations.

Now I was told, that you Stefan know already where these spikes come from and even a paper exisits. Unfortunately so far I was unable to find it.
I wonder if it is possible to predict the occurance of these spikes, so one does not have to search for them anymore and can get rid of the filters.

Best regards

Dominik

All I know is that the  "20mV" spikes are always symmetrical around cell #512, that they are typically 17.4 mV in height, and that they occur always in all 9 channels simultaneously. They cannot occur in all locations, but there only like 32 possible locations where they can occur. With this information it should be easy to fix them by filtering.

200 mV spikes are new to me. I do not see them in our boards, so it must be related to the board readout and not to the chip.

Best regards,
Stefan
 

Hello!

We're developing electronics based on the DRS4 to read out a breast PET scanner and our event rate will be quite high so we're concerned about dead-time.  with that in mind, I have a question regarding the mode of simultaneous writing and reading that is described in the DRS4 data sheet.  I think the description there is quite clear but I'd like to ask for a few clarifications.

1) Are the channels required to be read out via the channel multiplexer when doing the simultaneous write/read or is it ok to read out all channels in parallel (even the ones still sampling) and just throw away the ones you don't want?

2) If one wanted to use region of interest mode along with the simultaneous write/read, how would that work?  Here is what I would think - please tell me if I'm missing some important detail:

-upon trigger, deassert dwrite.

-strobe RSRLOAD

-increment write config register

-reassert dwrite

-start the readout (reading out stop shift register value on SROUT as data comes out)

3) now to add even more complexity - I would actually like to use simultaneous write/read along with region of interest mode and also with pairs of cascaded channels as we need >500ns latency and 2Gsps is too slow for our signals.  the combination of cascading and simultaneous write/read is addressed in the data sheet but I still have one question.  In normal circumstances when cascading channels, one would read out the value in the write shift register to know which channel was active when the domino wave stopped.  I assume that this is not possible when dwrite is enabled as the write shift register is then advanced by the domino wave, so I see three possibilities:

-accept more dead-time and read out the write-shift-register each time (adds ~240ns to deadtime)

-just read out both channels every time and figure out later where is the data you want

-attempt to keep track of the expected state of write-shift-register in firmware.

is there a better option that I have not thought of?

many thanks!

Benjamin LeGeyt

Unfortunately the simultaneous writing/reading does not work as described in the data sheet. Just recently we found out that due to a bug in the chip a part of the waveform is missing if you read and write at the same time. The only clean solution is to use two DRS4 chips in parallel. You read one chip while the other samples, then you switch over between them. In that case all the ROI scheme and channel cascading works normally. The dead time will be addressed by the DRS5 chip, which will be dead time free, but will not be available until in maybe 2-3 years.

/Stefan 

Hi,

when I try to compile drs_exam project my computer give me this output:

1>------ Rebuild All started: Project: drs_exam, Configuration: Debug Win32 ------
1>  averager.cpp
1>c:\users\daq\desktop\

Have a look at the web site http://www.psi.ch/drs/software-download . Under the MS Windows section it says that you have to install the libusb-1.0 package first before you can compile the example program. This is also obvious from the missing _usb_* functions in the error listing above.

/Stefan

 Hi Stefan,

you were right, I forgot to install the libusb driver.

Thanks for your support

 Hi,

   I want to describe this phenomenon again. The diagram below is DRS4 output. There is no input signal. Green is the output8+, blue is the output8-. Output8+ of the first channel is below  the baseline. The output is saturation when input ADC. It is not right, and what is it  in front of the first channel? It seemed there are two channels.  Others channel  is suitable. I check the circuit , Hardware is no problem, so I want to konw where the FPGA code  is wrong. What reason is caused? Can anyone help me to solve the problem? Thanks!

Dear Stefan

I am trying to use the DRS4 eval board on a Windows7 machine. Unfortunately I get an error message saying "No DRS 
board found". But I can see the DRS board in the device manager with the proper driver loaded. Is there any known 
problem with win7?

I am using windows7 professional (SP1) with the drs software 5.0.1.

Cheers,
Roman

PS: Everything is working on my mac. But not under windows7.

> 
> Dear Stefan
> 
> I am trying to use the DRS4 eval board on a Windows7 machine. Unfortunately I get an error message saying "No DRS 
> board found". But I can see the DRS board in the device manager with the proper driver loaded. Is there any known 
> problem with win7?
> 
> I am using windows7 professional (SP1) with the drs software 5.0.1.
> 
> Cheers,
> Roman
> 
> PS: Everything is working on my mac. But not under windows7.

Hi Roman,

please read section 2.3. (page 13)  from the Evaluation Board manual: http://www.psi.ch/drs/DocumentationEN/manual_rev50.pdf

You have to update the USB driver in your Computer Management.

Cheers,
Stefan 

 Hi,

 The diagram below is DRS4 output. Green is the output8+, blue is the output8-. Output8+ of the first channel is below  the baseline. It is not  right.

Others channel  is suitable. I check the circuit , Hardware is no problem, so I want to konw where the FPGA code  is wrong. what reason is caused? Thanks!

You are funny. Just by looking at a scope picture I should know what is wrong at your FPGA code. Unfortunately I'm not a magician. I looks to me like you have 11 channels in your diagram, although the chip has only 9. What I would recommend is to put some input to each channel one at a time, like a 10 MHz sine wave. You should then see that sine wave for the single channel at the output and can correlate input vs. output. Maybe your address bits are wrong or the chip has a soldering problem.

/Stefan 

Hi,

the latest software drs-5.0.0.tar.gz fails to compile on my freshly installed SuSE 13.1 whereas the previous 4.0.1 is compiling out-of-the-box.

My system has the wxWidgets 2.8.12 which is probably together with gcc 4.8.1 the reason of the problem. I applied a number of corrections, mainly some sort of proper (?) typecasts, a patch file is attached.

Maybe you could consider to take them into account for the next patch release?

Thanks and best regards

Hermann-Josef

Thank you very much for the corrections. I know it in principle, but neither my Mac OSX nor the Windows compiler complains, so I usually don't see this errors. It's fixed now.

/Stefan 

Hi,

is there any (obvious) reason why it is not possible (or not indended) to repeat the time calibration of a DRS4 eval board several times. I get the shown error message from the 'drscl' tool as well when I try to call the corresponding method in the support library:

mathes@ikauger5:~/src/DRS4> drs-4.0.1/drscl
DRS command line tool, Revision 20430
Type 'help' for a list of available commands.

Found DRS4 board  0 on USB, serial #2362, firmware revision 17662

B0> tcalib
Enter calibration frequency [GHz]: 5
Creating Timing Calibration of Board #2362
[==================================================]
B0> tcalib 5
Creating Timing Calibration of Board #2362
Error performing timing calibration, please check waveforms

As I will be in holidays, the answer is not urgent.

Thanks

 -- Hermann-Josef

Ups, this is certainly a bug. Try to restart drscl between calibrations. Anyhow the calibration is poor (~20ps), so in a month or two we will have a much better one (~3ps), but that needs a new board (then will be called V5).

/Stefan

 Hi Stefan,

thanks for the quick reply, I know that this solution works with drscl but not within my code.

I tried to track it down, but gave up very soon. Seems as if AnalyzeWF() which is called by CalibrateTiming() finds to much zero-crossings when it is called the second time.

Regards

  -- Hermann-Josef

Time calibration has been changed completely in meantime. With the new V5 boards, we have a new oscillator on the board where on can calibrate each channel individually. This is necessary to obtain a good timing down to a few ps. With the current code the above problem has vanished. We also learned that the time calibration is very stable (less than a ps) over several months, so no need to repeat the calibration over and over again.

/Stefan 

Hi,

I have an old v2.0 board that I just upgraded firmware on using v4.0.0 download package which has a drs4_eval1.bit for v2.0 boards containing firmware 15158. So I would like to use the latest DRS Oscilloscope program, due to the faster acquisition speeds and advanced calibration techniques, however I seem to be running into a problem.

v4.0 DRS Oscilloscope program displays flat lines in any configuration instead of a pulse that I provide to it (I can't tell if calibration works because all my traces are flat and nothing triggers) but provides ~460Hz. Any idea why v4.0.0 DRS Oscilloscope program does not work with DRS4 Eval Board v2.0 fw:15158?

v3.0 DRS Oscilloscope program actually works and displays the pulse that I input (calibration also works), however it only has 64Hz speed due to v3.0.0 not having multithreading capability which is provided in v3.1.0 software version of the program.

Can you please upload and post on the website the latest software packages for v2 and v3? I would like to use v3.1.0 DRS Oscilloscope version. (Both Linux and Windows, but Linux preferably)

Also, I would like to report that for some reason, I don't know if it happens with v3.0 program used on v2.0 board only or a general issue, but after each calibration of voltage and timing, the trigger does not work. I have to exit the oscilloscope program, and run it again, then the trigger works fine, and the device is calibrated.

Thank you

I'm also having trouble installing drivers and running DRSOsc program on another computer running Windows 8.

The issue with the driver is that it's not digitally signed.

The issue with the DRSOsc is that it's failing to find libusb0.dll. libusb-win32 seemed to have installed upon DRS4 software install, however the supplied version is Windows 7/8 incompatible, so on Windows 7 computer I had to download libusb_win32 v1.2.6.0 from the official website and install it directly, then everything worked fine. However in Windows 8, I am unable to install libusb-win32 because in  libusb-win32 Inf Wizard installation program when you select for which device the libusb should be used, it asks to install a driver, but when I point to DRS' driver, it says "Unknown Error: 1" and that's that. One way around the libusb issue is to copy the required dll and sys file directly where the .exe is stored.

I will attempt to disable signed driver signature requirement, and see if the driver installs then, but this should really be fixed instead.

Did you have any progress with that? Unfortunately I don't have a Windows 8 machine here at our institute, so I cannot reproduce your problem. At least I put the 1.2.6 libusb driver into the V5 software package. 

Unfortunately I do not have the time to back-port any new software feature to the old V2 and V3 boards. That means you have to live with their software or try to get a new board. Right now we have the V5 board which allows you 1 ps time measurements. Maybe this is a good argument to upgrade the hardware.

/Stefan 

  For http://www.psi.ch/drs/DocumentationEN/manual_rev20.pdf:

0 0x02 15..8 board_type 5 for DRS4 USB Evaluation Board 1.1 ---> should instead say Evaluation Board 2.0 ?

 I've been reviewing DRS.cpp v4.0.1

1) if(i==100) should be if(i==1000) in function int DRSBoard::SetFrequency(double demand, bool wait)

Otherwise if PLL did not lock, i = 1000, and the if statement is evaluating it against 100, not 1000 so it never gets triggered and the error goes unnoticed.

      if (wait) {

         StartDomino();

         for (i=0 ; i<1000 ; i++)

         if (GetStatusReg() & BIT_PLL_LOCKED0)

            break;

         SoftTrigger();

         if (i==100) {

            printf("PLL did not lock for frequency %lf\n", demand);

            return 0;

         }

      }

2) int DRSBoard::RegulateFrequency(double demand) does not seem to work at all, the frequency does not lock for either 2 or 5 GHz, tested using DRS4 v2.0 eval board with DRS v4.0.1 and v2.0.1 software's drscl tool.

3) In int DRSBoard::SetTriggerDelayPercent(int delay) and int DRSBoard::SetTriggerDelayNs(int delay), what is the purpose of Read and setting of "reg" if it's not being used or exported anywhere else outside of that function? Seems like Read and reg are called for nothing.

      Read(T_CTRL, &reg, REG_TRG_DELAY, 2);

      reg = (reg & 0xFF00) | ticks;

      Write(T_CTRL, REG_TRG_DELAY, &ticks, 2);

Also, I don't understand why in int DRSBoard::SetSyncDelay(int ticks), the code changes to 
      Read(T_CTRL, &reg, REG_TRG_DELAY, 2);
      reg = (reg & 0xFF) | (ticks << 8);
      Write(T_CTRL, REG_TRG_DELAY, &reg, 2);
In particular, reg = (reg & 0xFF00) | ticks; and reg = (reg & 0xFF) | (ticks << 8);  I'm not really sure but doesn't Read() with size 2 return a value that has a maximum value of 0xFF, or 8bits? But ticks << 8, since ticks == 255 max, makes 255 << 8 => 65280, which is now a 16bit value and size 4. No? I might be wrong here, and if I am then I don't understand what's going on. Can you please explain? In v2.0.1 the ticks were a maximum of 511 or 9bits, why did it change to 8bits?

4) A function is being called incorrectly in GetWave() in DRS.cpp

int DRSBoard::GetWave(unsigned int chipIndex, unsigned char channel, float *waveform)
{
   return GetWave(chipIndex, channel, waveform, true, fStopCell[chipIndex], false, 0, true);
}

The return is calling the following overloaded function:
int DRSBoard::GetWave(unsigned int chipIndex, unsigned char channel, float *waveform, bool responseCalib, int triggerCell, int wsr, bool adjustToClock, float threshold, bool offsetCalib)
the problem is that int wsr is not passed to the function and it thus causes implicit conversions where false is being cast into int, 0 into bool, and true into float.

I'll post more if I have any questions or spot any more bugs.

#11 0x080589de in DRSBoard::GetWave (this=0xb7456008, chipIndex=0, channel=0 '\000', waveform=0x40f24000, responseCalib=true, triggerCell=207, wsr=0, adjustToClock=false, threshold=1, offsetCalib=true) at src/DRS.cpp:3380

This is calling:

int GetWave(unsigned int chipIndex, unsigned char channel, float *waveform, bool responseCalib, int triggerCell = -1, int wsr = -1, bool adjustToClock = false, float threshold = 0, bool offsetCalib = true);

from DRS.cpp:
return GetWave(chipIndex, channel, waveform, true, fStopCell[chipIndex], false, 0, true);

false=0
true=1

As you can see offsetCalib ends up being defined by default, threshold set to 1 because of true, adjustToClock is false set by 0, wsr is 0 set by false, however threshold is never used with DRS4 eval board. So although it doesn't affect data retrieval, it's just dumb luck the function ends up being called with parameters that matter being exactly what they were meant to be.

The DRSCallback *pcb is missing an if statement in the code when DRS Oscilloscope software isn't used when calibrating in function: int DRSBoard::CalibrateTiming(DRSCallback *pcb)

I had to add if (pcb != NULL) before each pcb call, like other functions are using so that the program doesn't segfault when the function is called like b->CalibrateTiming(NULL);

That's the only function that's missing this if statement for DRSCallback *pcb call, and there are 2 calls in this function to pcb that need fixing.

Acknowledged. Added it to the code. 

Exactly. If I would not have had that dumb luck, I would have seen the problem and fixed it. So it was more like bad luck. 

Type 5 is both for board V1.1 and V2. I consider V1.1 obsolete (nobody uses it). I added code 8 for V4 and 9 for V5 

      if (wait) {

         StartDomino();

         for (i=0 ; i<1000 ; i++)

         if (GetStatusReg() & BIT_PLL_LOCKED0)

            break;

         SoftTrigger();

         if (i==100) {

            printf("PLL did not lock for frequency %lf\n", demand);

            return 0;

         }

      }

 Absolutely correct, I changed it in the current software.

 This function is for the old DRS2 chip back in 2003 or so. That chip did not have an on-chip PLL for frequency regulation, so this was done in the FPGA. Just don't us it (who told you to???). 

      Read(T_CTRL, &reg, REG_TRG_DELAY, 2);

      reg = (reg & 0xFF00) | ticks;

      Write(T_CTRL, REG_TRG_DELAY, &ticks, 2);

Also, I don't understand why in int DRSBoard::SetSyncDelay(int ticks), the code changes to 
      Read(T_CTRL, &reg, REG_TRG_DELAY, 2);
            
      reg = (reg & 0xFF) | (ticks << 8);
            
      Write(T_CTRL, REG_TRG_DELAY, &reg, 2);

In particular, reg = (reg & 0xFF00) | ticks; and reg = (reg & 0xFF) | (ticks << 8);  I'm not really sure but doesn't Read() with size 2 return a value that has a maximum value of 0xFF, or 8bits?   But ticks << 8, since ticks == 255 max, makes 255 << 8 => 65280, which is now a 16bit value and size 4. No? I might be wrong here, and if I am then I don't understand what's going on.   Can you please explain? In v2.0.1 the ticks were a maximum of 511 or 9bits, why did it change to 8bits?
            

The register REG_TRG_DELAY contains two 8-bit values, one for the trigger delay, one for the sync delay (which is currently not used). So to set one half of the register containing 16 bits, the register is read (16 bits are read with size 2, since these are two bytes), and the upper or lower 8 bits are replaced with the new value. Then the 16 bits are written back. The firmware in the FPGA does not allow to access only 8 bits of a 16-bit register.

int DRSBoard::GetWave(unsigned int chipIndex, unsigned char channel, float *waveform)
            
{
            
   return GetWave(chipIndex, channel, waveform, true, fStopCell[chipIndex], false, 0, true);
            
}
            

The return is calling the following overloaded function:
int DRSBoard::GetWave(unsigned int chipIndex, unsigned char channel, float *waveform, bool responseCalib, int triggerCell, int wsr, bool adjustToClock, float threshold, bool offsetCalib)
            the problem is that int wsr is not passed to the function and it thus causes implicit conversions where false is being cast into int, 0 into bool, and true into float.
            

That's correct. Fortunately the wrong values for the wsr does not have any influence for "normal" users. It is only used for channel cascading which is not used in the evaluation board. I will fix it in the code anyhow.

Hello the DRS4 team,

I and some of my colleagues are using DRS4 evaluation boards (ver. 3) for the R&D of the Cherenkov Telescope Array project. During 
our PMT measurements, we have encountered a problem which is probably related to USB connection. In fact, I cannot reproduce this 
problem with my Linux virtual machine (Scientific Linux 5 64 bit), but other colleagues from three different universities in Japan 
reported the same problem with their real machines.

=== Short Summary ===
DRSBoard::SetFrequency occasionally stops

=== Environment ===
- drs-3.0.0
- Scientific Linux 5.5 (32 bit)
- lib-usb-devel-0.1.12-5.1.i386

=== Steps to Reproduce the Problem ===
1. Compile the attached file drs_simple.cpp with drs-3.0.0
2. Repeat the following command several times from a terminal

$ drs_simple -0.05 1000 ./outputfilename.dat true 2.

3. The above command may stop. In that case, you need to kill the command by Ctrl-C.

=== Comments ===
- Once the command stops, we cannot run the above command properly.
- If we unplug and plug the USB cable again, the command can be executed again.
- It seems that the program stops inside DRSBoard::SetFrequency

I would very appreciate it if you could give me any advise. If you need further information, please let me know.

Akira

Hi,

although I don't have a chance to test your code, it looks very similar to what I am using.

I can confirm that the DRS4 communication breaks down if the program talking to the DRS4 is closed abruptly or before is has a chance 
to properly execute "delete drs" where it closes the USB connection.

For me if I terminate the program that's using DRS4, the next time I might or might not be able to connect to the DRS4 because I would 
get a magic number or the program would just stop. The DRS4 eval board needs to be restarted via pulling the plug if the orange LED is 
not ON.

I have tried to power down the DRS4 board via software under SL6 linux, but the reality is that the DRS4 eval board is powered directly 
by the 5V USB rail off the computer, and you cannot software control that, you can only suspend the communication of the USB 
port/device.

So I don't have a solution to fix this issue, but my best advice is to change your software such that it calls "delete drs" to 
terminate the USB connection before you close or terminate the program.

Oh and I have not tried running multiple programs at the same time to see if that might be causing the issue as well. The usb library 
might simply error out saying the device is inaccessible because it's being used.

> Hello the DRS4 team,
> 
> I and some of my colleagues are using DRS4 evaluation boards (ver. 3) for the R&D of the Cherenkov Telescope Array project. During 
> our PMT measurements, we have encountered a problem which is probably related to USB connection. In fact, I cannot reproduce this 
> problem with my Linux virtual machine (Scientific Linux 5 64 bit), but other colleagues from three different universities in Japan 
> reported the same problem with their real machines.
> 
> === Short Summary ===
> DRSBoard::SetFrequency occasionally stops
> 
> === Environment ===
> - drs-3.0.0
> - Scientific Linux 5.5 (32 bit)
> - lib-usb-devel-0.1.12-5.1.i386
> 
> === Steps to Reproduce the Problem ===
> 1. Compile the attached file drs_simple.cpp with drs-3.0.0
> 2. Repeat the following command several times from a terminal
> 
> $ drs_simple -0.05 1000 ./outputfilename.dat true 2.
> 
> 3. The above command may stop. In that case, you need to kill the command by Ctrl-C.
> 
> === Comments ===
> - Once the command stops, we cannot run the above command properly.
> - If we unplug and plug the USB cable again, the command can be executed again.
> - It seems that the program stops inside DRSBoard::SetFrequency
> 
> I would very appreciate it if you could give me any advise. If you need further information, please let me know.
> 
> Akira

Hello Andrey,

Thank you for your advise. But we never terminated the program before closing and deleting the DRS object. What we did was just executing the program multiple times 
repeatedly.

Akira

Hi,

finally I found some time to look into this problem, sorry for the late delay.

I tried your program and started it maybe 50 times without an issue. So I cannot reproduce your problem.

I know that if you do Ctrl-C then you might have some data "stuck" in the USB interface, like you ask for a 
waveform data buffer but you never read it because you got interrupted by the Ctrl-C. But when you reinitialize 
the board the next time, all stuck data is drained before the board is initialized. This is done in DRS.cpp 
around line 343:

            /* drain any data from Cy7C68013 FIFO if FPGA startup caused erratic write */
            do {
               i = musb_read(usb_interface, 8, buffer, sizeof(buffer), 100);
               if (i > 0)
                  printf("%d bytes stuck in buffer\n", i);
            } while (i > 0);


So occasionally, after a restart after a Ctrl-C, you will see "xxx bytes stuck in buffer", but then the boards 
should come up correctly.

If you have the problem without Ctrl-C, then maybe your specific board has a hardware problem? Do you have 
access to another board? 

Best regards,
Stefan

 Hi

Question:

In v4 board, which channel has best calibration ?

Should it be possible to simulate v5 board and read calibration values for v4 board by other method .. for example using external calibration signal source connected to all channels? 

Is it  needed to detach all input signals from EVM board during calibration ?( I see there are switches on channel inputs.)

Some comments: averager.h, averager.cpp are missing in windows v.5 sources (it should be copied from linux sources)

PF2014 and thank You for development new EVM 5 and new time precision.

Martin

In v4 board, actually no channel has a good calibration. The timing calibration is done with channel #9, which is hard connected to a (poor) clock. So the best you can get there is ~30 ps. In principle one can calibrate the V4 board with an external source. The problem there is to find a good sine wave oscillator (we have several expensive ones and only one was good enough), and that the software does not support this. You would have to write your own calibration code (where of course you can "recycle" the one from the V5 software.

Thanks for pointing out the missing averager.*, I will add it.

/Stefan

 Dear Stefan,

I am trying to synchronise the readout of two test boards, one is the DRS4 test board, the other is PSI46 test board (used for the readout of  CMS pixel chip) for the offline analysis. I think that the most secure way to accomplish this is to pass a trigger number from one test board to the other.

The PSI46 test board has a software which allows it to accept a 16 bit number following the trigger pulse. I was wondering whether it would be possible for DRS4 board to generate such a trigger number on the trigger out line after sending the trigger. Also would it be possible to record this trigger number for every event stored by DRS4 board?

If none of this possible or requires a lot of time, then as a minimum, would it be possible to send-through only the triggers that were recorded by the DRS4 board?

Please let me know if you have better idea how to do this.

Thank you very much,

Dmitry.

There are indeed several methods. You can output the trigger number at the DRS evaluation board via the trigger output, but you would have to implement this yourself in the firmware.

The send-though of recorded triggers is already implemented in the board, so you could use that. The only thing to make sure is to to readout and re-enable the PSI46 board before you readout the DRS4 board. If you would first read the DRS4 board, and re-enable the DRS4 board via StartDomino(), then there could be the next trigger going through to the PSI46 board without that board being ready. So the sequence is

- connect trigger out of DRS4 to PSI46

- arm PSI46 board

- arm DRS4 board

- wait for trigger by calling IsBusy()

- read out PSI46 board

- read out DRS4 board

- call StartDomino(), which re-enables also the trigger though

Best regards,

Stefan

 Dear Stefan

Thank you very much for the answer. I did not have a chance to implement this yet.

I have a  follow up question: 

Is the following sequence already implemented in the DRS oscilloscope program? Could you point me to an example of such a sequence?

- arm DRS4 board

- wait for trigger by calling IsBusy()

- read out DRS4 board

- call StartDomino(), which re-enables also the trigger through

Cheers

Dmitry

Have a look at the drs_exam.cpp program which comes with the software, it implements exactly this sequence.

/Stefan